RE: Cisco Raises the Bar with Highest-Level IT Networking

In the bad economy the real pro's are just tired of having to complete with CCIE's who create "island vlan" situations caused the used layer 3 port channels instead of layer 2 trunks, etc. and these kind of issues I see almost daily....

So once the top dozen or so guys get their CCA they can switch back to charging 2006 "London hedge fund build out" rates

-Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Lala Lander
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:45 PM
To: Joe Astorino
Cc: Gary Duncanson; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Cisco Raises the Bar with Highest-Level IT Networking Certification: Cisco Certified Architect

Joe... just take it easy as this announcement is impacting us all. CCIE was
always a "support" or "operations" oriented certification but CCIEs were
also doing Design and Architect work as there was no other higher level
cert. Cisco knew it and hence introduced CCDE and now CCA. It is just
evolution and not revolution so just take it easy.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:

> Yeah really...I don't want to sound too upset here, but I feel like I just
> got kicked in the balls. How do the rest of you CCIEs out there feel about
> this announcement, since in my opinion we have all essentially been
> demoted?
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe Astorino
> CCIE #24347 (R&S)
> Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Duncanson [mailto:gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:38 PM
> To: Joe Astorino
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Cisco Raises the Bar with Highest-Level IT Networking
> Certification: Cisco Certified Architect
>
> I give up too. I'm just way too busy working as a Network Designer to keep
> up with all that stuff!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Astorino" <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
> To: "'Mike Kraus (mikraus)'" <mikraus_at_cisco.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Cisco Raises the Bar with Highest-Level IT Networking
> Certification: Cisco Certified Architect
>
>
> >I give up...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joe Astorino
> > CCIE #24347 (R&S)
> > Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
> > URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
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