RE: CCIE Number Disassociation

Hi Brad,

It's a UK term when your position in the company is no longer needed,
they make you redundant. It's a nice way of getting fired.

You get paid your month, plus a weeks wages for every year (if it's a
good company).

Then the position you held cannot be made available to the job market
again, as that is against the law here.

Normally if this happens, the first words out of anybodies mouth would
be, can I have a release note please....

What was more scary for me, is that I know that whatever happens, it is
purely up to Cisco's discretion as how they deal with this. So you may
have all the bases covered to move your badge, but in the end Cisco
block it.

One of the worst things, is applying for a role, knowing full well you
cannot get your badges released, and I have seen salaries dropped for
this very reason. i.e. your no good to me if I can't have your badge,
and I don't want to wait a year for it.

HTH

Grant

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com]
Sent: 04 June 2009 16:48
To: Grant Stevenson; ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com; Shahid Ansari; Abdul
Waheed Ghaffar
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Number Disassociation

"2. You get made redundant"

That's going to be difficult...four hands, four eyes, two mouths, two
poopers...can you explain how someone can be made redundant? Do you mean
cloning? If you have a clone then do both people share the same CCIE
number?

thanks,
Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Grant Stevenson
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:19 AM
To: ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com; Shahid Ansari; Abdul Waheed Ghaffar
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Number Disassociation

From what I have read and believe to be true:

You can take your badge with you immediately in the following
circumstances:

1. You get fired
2. You get made redundant
3. You get a letter from your company releasing you from their
partnership i.e. they got enough badges already.

Word of caution, a close friend of mine took the Security CCIE while
working for a company; he studied in his own time, and paid for the
attempts out of his own cash. The partner he was working for was given
the right to his badge even though they had not contributed anything
towards his certification.

If your current company is not assisting you towards certification, does
not give you any help towards certification, make sure you get some
documented evidence that you can give to Cisco to release your badge if
you decide to leave said company once you have achieved your goal of
CCIE. Otherwise that company will keep your badge and there is nothing
you can do about it.

Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com
Sent: 04 June 2009 14:08
To: Shahid Ansari; Abdul Waheed Ghaffar
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE Number Disassociation

Never heard of this type of letter. I thought the policy is that the
new partner can't use the ccie towards their cisco status for 12 months
if the ccie came from another partner.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shahid Ansari <shahid1357_at_gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:50:14
To: Abdul Waheed Ghaffar<a_w_ghaffar_at_hotmail.com>
Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: CCIE Number Disassociation

Try this

http://tools.cisco.com/WWChannels/GETLOG/login.do

but dont forget to take CCIE release letter from your old company to
join
new company (May ask before and during audit)
njoy !

Thanks
Shahid Ansari

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Abdul Waheed Ghaffar <
a_w_ghaffar_at_hotmail.com> wrote:

> Will some one help me how to disassociate my CCIE Number with
company? I
> did
> it before but now Im battling with cisco web site...
>
>
>
> Thx
>
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