Re: CCIE(SP) Bootcamp- feedback required

Hi Roman,

Sorry mate i don't like your philosophy or promise to customer. I know
your promise is false. You cheat people via false promise. I bought
your SP workbook nearly 2 years ago which is 1.2a. Before purchase I
did ask via mail i would like to buy new version 2. you reply it will
release soon. Buy now 1.2a version you will get free new version when
it is release. I believe it will release in few years.

Cheers mate

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Roman Rodichev <roman_at_iementor.com> wrote:
> Dear Narbik,
>
> I'm not sure I'm the one who needs a deep breath, I don't seem to be typing in all CAPS, you know?
>
> Anyway, let's not bore people with this, obviously it's off-topic. You seem to have changed your position from "nobody coming close to what we are doing" to "does not mean
> that you are NOT good". Regardless, I simply offered an opportunity to let some volunteer see how nobody comes close to what you're doing in Service Provider track. My
> offer still stands. Let's do two students.
>
> Do you offer a class that is affordable? - Is this part of philosophy?!
> Do you offer FREE retakes? - Is this part of philosophy?! Yes, we do offer 1 free retake.
> Do you offer classes all over the world? - Again, is this a philosophy? Seriously?!
> Do you do nothing but chalk talk? - Let the volunteer discover this.
> Besides i am much better looking than you are. - Let the volunteer decide :)
>
> In my mind, philosophy is nothing about those things you mentioned. My philosophy is to take the student through five 12-hour days of grueling labs that cover everything on
> blueprint and make sure that the student understands each topic in and out, whether it's done through labs, a chalk talk, a slide, or whatever...
>
> Peace
>
>
>
>
>> -------Original Message-------
>> From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: CCIE(SP) Bootcamp- feedback required
>> Sent: May 29 '09 01:48
>>
>> If you take a deep breath and close your eyes it will go away. I promise
>> it won't hurt at all. Relax.
>> Do you teach the same way as i do?
>> If NOT then, the philosophy is different. Lot's of vendors do nothing
>> but power point, we don't, so from that angle, their philosophy is
>> different. Good or bad its up to the student.
>> If you are trying to compare or if you are trying to tell me that you are
>> a better instructor, LET's not go there.
>> I do not teach the way you do, my business philosophy is very different.
>> Do you offer a class that is affordable? Do you offer FREE retakes? Do
>> you offer classes all over the world? Do you do nothing but chalk talk?
>> If your answer is NO, then, our philosophy is different.
>>
>> Besides i am much better looking than you are.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Roman Rodichev <[LINK:
>> mailto:roman_at_iementor.com] roman_at_iementor.com> wrote:
>> Let's compare our philosophies, we take a volunteer (someone who
>> didn't take you r&s class) and have
>> him seat your first bootcamp in august and mine in september for free :)
>> he will then express his opinion
>> independently
>>
>>
>> > -------Original Message-------
>> > From: Narbik Kocharians <[LINK: mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com]
>> narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: CCIE(SP) Bootcamp- feedback required
>> > Sent: May 28 '09 16:18
>> >
>> > NO,
>> > I am referring to Pricing and philosophy. Not only in SP but in R&S.
>> This
>> > does not mean that you are NOT good, it only means that our philosophy
>> is
>> > very different.
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Roman Rodichev <[LINK:
>> mailto:roman_at_iementor.com] roman_at_iementor.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dear Narbik, what does this mean? "once again i do not see any
>> vendors
>> > > coming close to what we are doing in SP." You are referring to
>> pricing, am
>> > > I right? :)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Roman Rodichev
>> > > 5xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider)
>> > > Instructor, Content Developer
>> > > ieMentor Corporation [LINK: http://www.iementor.com/]
>> http://www.iementor.com
>> > > Y!M: roman7927
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: [LINK: mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>> [mailto:[LINK: mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> > > Narbik Kocharians
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:12 PM
>> > > To: Brad Ellis
>> > > Cc: Rick Mur; Andy Hogard; ccie 2008; Cisco certification
>> > > Subject: Re: CCIE(SP) Bootcamp- feedback required
>> > >
>> > > The schedules are NOT on the website but starting the second week of
>> Aug,
>> > > we
>> > > will be conducting our boot camps and our work books will also be
>> ready for
>> > > purchase, once again i do not see any vendors coming close to what
>> we are
>> > > doing in R&S and SP.
>> > > For our old students the price is 1500 and new comers 2500.
>> > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Brad Ellis <[LINK:
>> mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com] brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Rick,
>> > > >
>> > > > We break our boot camp down into the first four days of focusing
>> on
>> > > > technologies, and then the last day of a mocklab.
>> > > >
>> > > > thanks,
>> > > > Brad Ellis
>> > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>> > > > CCSI# 30482
>> > > > CEO / President
>> > > > CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Learning Partner (CLP)
>> > > > Email: [LINK: mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com] brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> > > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>> > > > Direct: +1-702-968-5100 = Outside the USA
>> > > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>> > > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>> > > > Training And Remote Racks: [LINK: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/]
>> http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: [LINK: mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>> [mailto:[LINK: mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> > > > Rick Mur
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:57 AM
>> > > > To: Andy Hogard
>> > > > Cc: ccie 2008; Cisco certification
>> > > > Subject: Re: CCIE(SP) Bootcamp- feedback required
>> > > >
>> > > > Narbik's bootcamp is in the pipeline I believe.
>> > > >
>> > > > I did the INE bootcamp, Brian McGahan was great! But there is no
>> > > > technology lecture, just mocklabs and reviewing those and diving a
>> > > > little deeper in the technology while doing that.
>> > > >
>> > > > Don't know the others unfortunately.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Rick Mur
>> > > > CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / SP)
>> > > > [LINK: mailto:rick_at_rickmur.com] rick_at_rickmur.com
>> > > >
>> > > > On 27 mei 2009, at 15:45, Andy Hogard wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Looks like you forgot Narbik!! ;)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:42 PM, ccie 2008 <[LINK:
>> mailto:amrith.ccie_at_gmail.com] amrith.ccie_at_gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Hi Experts,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> i am planing to attend CCIE SP bootcamp ( virtual).
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> i have shortlisted 3 vendors
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> 1. INE
>> > > > >> 2.IPexpert
>> > > > >> 3. ie mentor.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Your feedback/suggestions about these 3 vendors is highly
>> > > > >> appreciated
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Cheers
>> > > > >> Amrith
>> > > > >>
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