Re: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track

I like your train of thought on this, Larry.

I go back and forth via email with a friend to try to prepare my quick
recall of blueprint topics. I try to avoid asking him questions with single
word answers - every question I come up with has some component of how does
this work or why does the solution work this way. I can't help but think
that even if the OEQ turns out to be much easier than that, just being
familiar with how and why will help me recall the simpler answers much
faster.

I also am working towards a final goal of being able to write up my config
tasks completely in notepad in order to avoid depending on the help system
too much. Hopefully this will help me recall the individual task steps (as
you suggested) in case I need to explicitly define those for OEQ.

I am hoping that this tactic for studying well prepare me sufficiently for
the OEQ; just wish I knew what Cisco was thinking with regards to this part
of the exam ;)

Michael

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Larry Hadrava <lhadrava_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:

> Scott:
> Well said. By the time lab day comes around, you should be at a point of
> understanding the meshing of technologies and how they work together. Of
> course this knowledge is built upon a solid understanding of the core
> technologies.
>
> Now - IMHO -I think of the OEQ sections like this. Your lab is just a
> series
> of questions that you answer by configuration - right? For instance if the
> task asks for:
> Configure R1 to peer with R2 via BGP . Use the loopback addressed for thie
> relationship.
>
> To complete this task you might ask yourself:
> What steps do I need to take to create a BGP neighbor relationship between
> R1 and R2? What do I have to do extra to make BGP work via the loopbacks?
>
> So to complete a task on the lab, it is like a series of questions that you
> have tot answer to complete the task.
>
> As a study tool, take each task in a lab that you are studying and make it
> into a question and try to walk through it verbally. There you have OEQ's
> covered.
>
> Larry Hadrava
> CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Scott Morris <
> smorris_at_internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>
> > They're more about the application of knowledge. And that knowledge of
> > protocols is what should be cemented more in your brain now from
> > practicing for the lab exam. The "blueprint" covered by these
> > open-ended questions is the lab blueprint. Although it's written in
> > nature, it's about the application/knowledge of technologies.
> >
> > IMHO if you are practicing enough about how the different technologies
> > really work rather than concentrating on any particular command-line
> > memorization you'll have no problem at all with these things!
> >
> > We are compiling a list of sample questions/ideas and things of that
> > nature at the moment, and will be releasing materials in order to help
> > refresh your memory on things and drive away that fear, uncertainty and
> > doubt!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >
> > JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mohammed Gazzaz wrote:
> > > You are right, I should not be afraid but I am.
> > >
> > > I passed the written test last year and managed to score only 74%.
> > > I don't really have a good memory and it really hurts to fail the lab
> > because of 4 simple questions.
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:57:29 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track
> > > From: ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com
> > > To: mgazzaz_at_hotmail.com
> > > CC: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; security_at_groupstudy.com
> > >
> > > Technically if you passed the written - you are there already - that
> test
> > is filled with OEQ.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Mohammed Gazzaz <mgazzaz_at_hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What Study materials do you guys
> > > recommend? and are 2 months enough to prepare for the OEQ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Will those be enough ? or do I need more materials?
> > >
> > >
> > > Yusif's book
> > >
> > > DOC CD
> > >
> > > CCIE Security Exam Quick Reference Sheets
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; security_at_groupstudy.com
> > >> Subject: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track
> > >> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 02:46:38 +0100
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Starting the 15th June:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/index.html
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> > >> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> > >>
> > >>
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