Re: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track

i too strongly agree with TIM.......!!!

If CISCO really wants to filter the guys based upon the knowledge then what
TIM has suggested is 100% TRUE or if Cisco wants to make bugs of it then its
not good. If this is the case what is the value of written Exam. why dont
they filter at the written exam itself?

Regards
Casim

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Jimmy <cciebase_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Tim:)
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> 2009/5/18, Tim <timcurci_at_roadrunner.com>:
> >
> > Scott-
> >
> > I do not think that anyone is questioning whether one should understand
> > what
> > is being asked vis-a-vis the blueprint...although I specifically question
> > the timing of the release of the change in format of the security exam
> > since
> > the blueprint has recently been revised (i.e. more than 30 days notice of
> > the change should have been given). For those taking the exam within the
> > next 90 days this is not what they paid for.
> >
> > Correct me if I am wrong, however, if one "fails" this 4-5 question
> > mini-quiz, then one fails the lab. I am not sure what a passing score on
> > this "quiz" is, nor will I ever know :). The whole thing seems somewhat
> > subjective to me.
> >
> > Four to Five questions is not a statistically valid pool of questions
> that
> > should invalidate the results of an 8-hour lab exam.
> >
> > If you fail the 4-5 question exam then Cisco should send you home and
> > refund
> > your $1,400.
> >
> > This is getting silly.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Scott Morris
> > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:37 PM
> > To: Mohammed Gazzaz
> > Cc: ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com;
> security_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track
> >
> > They're more about the application of knowledge. And that knowledge of
> > protocols is what should be cemented more in your brain now from
> > practicing for the lab exam. The "blueprint" covered by these
> > open-ended questions is the lab blueprint. Although it's written in
> > nature, it's about the application/knowledge of technologies.
> >
> > IMHO if you are practicing enough about how the different technologies
> > really work rather than concentrating on any particular command-line
> > memorization you'll have no problem at all with these things!
> >
> > We are compiling a list of sample questions/ideas and things of that
> > nature at the moment, and will be releasing materials in order to help
> > refresh your memory on things and drive away that fear, uncertainty and
> > doubt!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >
> > JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >
> > JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >
> > smorris_at_internetworkexpert.com
> >
> >
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >
> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> >
> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> >
> > Outside US: 775-826-4344
> >
> >
> > Knowledge is power.
> >
> > Power corrupts.
> >
> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mohammed Gazzaz wrote:
> > > You are right, I should not be afraid but I am.
> > >
> > > I passed the written test last year and managed to score only 74%.
> > > I don't really have a good memory and it really hurts to fail the lab
> > because of 4 simple questions.
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:57:29 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track
> > > From: ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com
> > > To: mgazzaz_at_hotmail.com
> > > CC: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; security_at_groupstudy.com
> > >
> > > Technically if you passed the written - you are there already - that
> test
> > is filled with OEQ.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Mohammed Gazzaz <mgazzaz_at_hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What Study materials do you guys
> > > recommend? and are 2 months enough to prepare for the OEQ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Will those be enough ? or do I need more materials?
> > >
> > >
> > > Yusif's book
> > >
> > > DOC CD
> > >
> > > CCIE Security Exam Quick Reference Sheets
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; security_at_groupstudy.com
> > >> Subject: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track
> > >> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 02:46:38 +0100
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Starting the 15th June:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/index.html
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> > >> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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