Re: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track

I agree with Tim:)

Jimmy

2009/5/18, Tim <timcurci_at_roadrunner.com>:
>
> Scott-
>
> I do not think that anyone is questioning whether one should understand
> what
> is being asked vis-a-vis the blueprint...although I specifically question
> the timing of the release of the change in format of the security exam
> since
> the blueprint has recently been revised (i.e. more than 30 days notice of
> the change should have been given). For those taking the exam within the
> next 90 days this is not what they paid for.
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, however, if one "fails" this 4-5 question
> mini-quiz, then one fails the lab. I am not sure what a passing score on
> this "quiz" is, nor will I ever know :). The whole thing seems somewhat
> subjective to me.
>
> Four to Five questions is not a statistically valid pool of questions that
> should invalidate the results of an 8-hour lab exam.
>
> If you fail the 4-5 question exam then Cisco should send you home and
> refund
> your $1,400.
>
> This is getting silly.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Morris
> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:37 PM
> To: Mohammed Gazzaz
> Cc: ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; security_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track
>
> They're more about the application of knowledge. And that knowledge of
> protocols is what should be cemented more in your brain now from
> practicing for the lab exam. The "blueprint" covered by these
> open-ended questions is the lab blueprint. Although it's written in
> nature, it's about the application/knowledge of technologies.
>
> IMHO if you are practicing enough about how the different technologies
> really work rather than concentrating on any particular command-line
> memorization you'll have no problem at all with these things!
>
> We are compiling a list of sample questions/ideas and things of that
> nature at the moment, and will be releasing materials in order to help
> refresh your memory on things and drive away that fear, uncertainty and
> doubt!
>
>
>
>
> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>
> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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>
> Mohammed Gazzaz wrote:
> > You are right, I should not be afraid but I am.
> >
> > I passed the written test last year and managed to score only 74%.
> > I don't really have a good memory and it really hurts to fail the lab
> because of 4 simple questions.
> >
> >
> > Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:57:29 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track
> > From: ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com
> > To: mgazzaz_at_hotmail.com
> > CC: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; security_at_groupstudy.com
> >
> > Technically if you passed the written - you are there already - that test
> is filled with OEQ.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Mohammed Gazzaz <mgazzaz_at_hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > What Study materials do you guys
> > recommend? and are 2 months enough to prepare for the OEQ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Will those be enough ? or do I need more materials?
> >
> >
> > Yusif's book
> >
> > DOC CD
> >
> > CCIE Security Exam Quick Reference Sheets
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> >>
> >
> >
> >> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; security_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track
> >> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 02:46:38 +0100
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >> Starting the 15th June:
> >>
> >> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/index.html
> >>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> >> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> >>
> >>
> >
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