RE: CCIE Wireless

Inline again for readability.

From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm_at_emanon.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:56 PM
To: tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com
Cc: 'Cisco certification'
Subject: Re: CCIE Wireless

>It was your message. Perhaps I read more into it with your reference to
the "CCIE race". But your quote:
>
>"IMO, Dial and SNA are in the same class as my initial Brocade certs, NT4
MCSE and 4.1 CNE. Great for drinkin' and telling stories but shouldn't >be
considered in a CCIE race."
>
>So I suppose, judging by your inline comments below, the question should
be: What exactly do you define as the "CCIE race"?

The race is who has the most active CCIEs. Or, the title of having the most
active CCIEs. Or, whatever you want to call it. I call it a race. Outside
of Cisco, it looks like Roman is going to win. J

>If we don't know we are racing how do we know who wins? And just because
someone possesses a vast collection of knowledge that you do not >have or
deem current and/or relevant, why discount that?

I think it's fairly obvious what the race is. But, you may have taken it
out of context due to my wording? Well, here's the bottom line.hopefully I
can clarify.

The CCIE race, IMO, should be active CCIE tracks only. Why? First off, the
"active" CCIE tracks typically contain updated info AND are obtainable by
ANYONE. I cannot go for Dial, Design, SNA, whatever today. It's that
simple.

>Meh...

Don't get all upset man! I took the 2 day lab too and am not trying to
discredit anyone obtaining any certification and/or knowledge.

J

Scott

Tony Varriale wrote:

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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm_at_emanon.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:25 PM
To: Tony Varriale
Cc: 'Cisco certification'
Subject: Re: CCIE Wireless
 
  

And I'd agree with that about skillsets. But just what exact insight do
you have about someone who has ONLY an ISP/Dial, or SNA/Blue, or
WAN-Switching or Design CCIE to be able to pass any judgement whatsoever
about what should count or not?
    

 
Pass which judgement?
 
  

That's inane.
    

 
Because?
 
  

I don't take it personally at all, but at the same time I cannot believe
anyone would make brash accusations like that about someone's knowledge
or capabilities.
    

 
What was brash?
 
  

Is it different than wondering about the people who
hang out on lists like this but yet don't have their CCIE and don't
appear to be actively moving towards it either?
    

 
Of course not. The original topic was counting ACTIVE CCIE tracks for the
CCIE race. Nothing more nothing less.
 
  

I'm pretty sure that osmosis doesn't work in that fashion.
    

 
Not sure how biology is relevant to the topic at hand...but ok.
 
  

But why make comments like that?
    

 
Which comments? Where are you going with this?

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Received on Thu May 07 2009 - 23:13:08 ART