RE: CCIE Wireless

Do you need Cisco to sponsor that for you?

You wanting to take a job and the requirement of learning SNA has nothing to
do with the topic just as a 24 year old out of school.

Let's stay together here.

As for legacy technologies not going away...sure they may not completely go
away for a while. But, it is an extremely small part of a market and
$$$...especially for Cisco.

Back on topic...

tv

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com [mailto:Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:01 PM
To: Tony Varriale
Cc: 'Cisco certification'; nobody_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Wireless

I'll give you that SNA isn't nearly as active. I did the consulting stuff
for a while and 99% was "modern" stuff. However, I'm settled into the
financial vertical and have been here for a while. Like Scott said,
Finance, Automotive, Government, etc. These legacy technologies aren't
going away anytime soon and the young 24 year old fresh IE out of school is
gonna have enough trouble just spelling SNA much less working out some of
the little pleasures in life like reverse bit ordering with token ring
bridging and RIF. I'm not an IE (yet) but I worked that junk back in
Vietnam. Maybe Cisco should sponsor an "old school" discipline with nothing
but the stuff that died with the two day labs?

Charles

  From: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com>

  To: "'Cisco certification'" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>

  Date: 05/07/2009 09:44 PM

  Subject: RE: CCIE Wireless

Sure, I've done that too. In fact I had some DLSW pop up this year.

But, it's <1%.

Are there spots? Sure. Will there be for a while? Sure. Is the track
active? No. And it does not reflect the market as a whole.

I know people that still code in JCL and COBOL. What do I win? :)

tv

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com [mailto:Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:22 PM
To: Tony Varriale
Cc: 'Cisco certification'; nobody_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Wireless

I know two "old school" IEs that are R&S certified and one that is SNA
certified and they all spend 75% of their time working in a complex
mainframe environment.
Commonly used terms:

SNA
DLSW
STUN
BSTUN
FEP
MAU
LU
PU
"Beaconing"
MAU
etc.

I feel the new certs are there for a reason but there are still a lot of
big businesses and governments out there who would be in a real bind if no
one knew those "forgotten technologies". They have their market as well.

Charles

  From: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com>

  To: "'Cisco certification'" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>

  Date: 05/07/2009 07:59 PM

  Subject: RE: CCIE Wireless

Not to take away from any holder of older CCIEs, but I put more weight in
current ones as they reflect the market.

IMO, Dial and SNA are in the same class as my initial Brocade certs, NT4
MCSE and 4.1 CNE. Great for drinkin' and telling stories but shouldn't be
considered in a CCIE race.

The current program should be the standard.

tv

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Ryan
West
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 3:42 PM
To: Luan Nguyen; 'Roman Rodichev'; 'ccie preparation'; 'Cisco
certification'
Subject: RE: CCIE Wireless

No, this mutant still exists:

CCIE #4110 - Michael Purcell (6,Routing and Switching, ISP Dial, SNA IP,
Security, Service Provider, Voice)

What's interesting is that Roman's are all current non-retired IE tracks.
So, I believe that makes a Roman a mutant too.

-ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Luan
Nguyen
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:08 PM
To: 'Roman Rodichev'; 'ccie preparation'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: CCIE Wireless

Good luck!
If pass = the first 6X CCIE?

-----------------------------------------------
Luan Nguyen
Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
[Web] http://www.netcraftsmen.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Roman Rodichev
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:02 PM
To: ccie preparation; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: CCIE Wireless

Tom,

we'll have first rack up in July. My first attempt is next week Thursday,
so
I'll have a better idea how to readjust the vrack.

Regards,

Roman Rodichev
5xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider)
Instructor, Content Developer
ieMentor Corporation http://www.iementor.com
Y!M: roman7927

> -------Original Message-------
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> Subject: CCIE Wireless
> Sent: May 07 '09 12:34
>
> Any vendor gearing up to provide racks for ccie wireless?
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
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