Re: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???

You guys are leaving out the fact that 10 years ago there was only one path
and very little training.

I'm with Joe on this one.
These days it's usually assumed that you have a CCIE if you're doing any
kind of consulting work. One week I'll do a voice install, the next I'll do
a security audit, after that I might work on a data center move. In all
cases I've notice that customers assume that I either have a CCIE or that
I've at least attempted the lab. They don't even care what path it is.
10 years ago when I started working as an engineer, there was only one path
and everyone wanted it for the paycheck. Now it's basically a requirement to
keep your job.

Last week I was installing a voice network, this week I'm doing a security
audit, next week.....

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
<joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:

> Nope... not even close guys...
>
> Having two kids and $120,000 is not even your bills anymore after taxes...
> if that doesn't motivate you to pass the CCIE nothing will...
>
> I have lots of friends and ex-coworkers in that boat...
>
> I think you pretty much need a CCIE to make a living in most places these
> days and the number of people studying/taking/passing directly reflects
> that...
>
> Like 5 years ago I would ask people so are you going to get your CCIE, they
> would say stuff like "my wife wont let me retreat from the family all
> weekend", etc.
> Now it's, Oh I passed R/S, I'm actually working on Voice :)
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Brad Ellis
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:28 PM
> To: Modular; Cisco certification
> Subject: RE: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
>
> Oh boy...here we go...
>
> So, first off, the lab is one day, vs. 2-days. But the biggest change is
> the number of seats available. Probably 2 to 3 times that "back in the
> day" if not more. I'd say that the biggest impact.
>
> thanks,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Modular
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:22 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
>
> ALL,
>
> I have a friend who passed his lab, (security), in November of 2007. His
> number is 19511. I passed last week and my number is 24266. So, in 18
> months
> 4700+ people got their number. This seems crazy when you consider that
> between 1993 and the end of 2007 there were 18500+ CCIEs. What do you
> guys
> attribute this increase to? Dynamips?? Is it that there s wasn t an
> Ipexpert
> or Internetwork Expert around back in the day ? Is the lab easier than
> it
> use to be?
>
>
>
> Bryan
>
>
> Bryan Rakestraw
> CCIE# 24266 (R&S)
>
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