Re: Question about the Proctors....

From: Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:41:10 -0400

I'll concur with Larry's experience.

If you ask and present your understanding of the scenario and demonstrate
some knowledge of the concepts in question they usually will give something
of a direction.

- Careful how you ask.
- Careful what they answer - word-for-word - Was it an answer or was it
merely a re-phrase of what you already asked that sounds like the answer you
were or were not leaning towards? Be very cautious here.

- If you ask something that is something that is in the stated objectives -
then they may likely tell you to go and re-read your lab guide. This does
not always mean just read the section you are asking about and many people
don't seem to understand that part. It means read the "entire lab guide"
and there are probably more sections that will help shed more light on the
matter at hand.

- If you obviously have no clue or are sorely misguided - then I think
sometimes they will be deliberately short and the point - and some may view
this as rude. A matter of interpretation to be sure in any event.

I think they are actually lectured or trained or maybe just OJT on how to
systematically repond to each scenario and then some...

Trust me they care. I'll never forget my first lab watching as Howard
jumped over the proctor's desk and ran to my Workstation to help with a
Virus... I don't think things like that are scripted. :) Would have been
great on U-Tube!

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Larry Hadrava <lhadrava_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:

> Good questions.
> It was my experience(s) with the RTP proctors that they would give you
> answers to your questions IF you were to come to them and say:
> I read this question to mean x. If I am correct I would do a,b,c ( short
> overview to show that you at least had a plan ). Followup with, is this
> what
> the question is getting at?
> or
> I understand this requirement to mean x. I can approach this in one of 2
> ways ( brief explanation of each - not a novel ) and ask if they would
> prefer one way over the other.
> I guess that my experience(s) were that if I went to the proctor with a
> question and at least could demonstrate an understanding of how to fulfil
> the requirement then I got an answer.
>
> I do not believe that if you ask, how do I do this that you would get much
> of an answer:-)
> I do believe that if you went and said I am not fully clear on what is
> being
> asked and gave an attempt at interpretation you would at least get an
> answer
> stating that you are right or that you should re-read the requirement(s)
> again. If I got that kind of answer that might be a clue to look at another
> area that may restrict or drive you to configure this area in a certain
> way.
>
>
> I know this might seem vague, but don't be afraid to ask questions. Try to
> have a plan if you can to show an understanding of the technology.
> Larry Hadrava
> CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Modular <modulartx_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think something that those of us who haven't taken the Lab yet struggle
> > with is
> > what to expect from the Proctors. You hear from some that they're there
> to
> > help you,
> > but then you also here that you shouldn't go fishing for answers from
> them.
> > I'm really
> > trying to figure out what "types" of questions I can ask them. I've heard
> > that you
> > can ask for clarification... but what does that mean? If I have a
> > requirement on
> > the exam that is unclear will they help clear it up? If, not, what are
> > they
> > there
> > for? If there's a requirement that could be "solved" one of two ways,
> after
> > explaining
> > both methods to the proctor would he/she suggest one of the two?
> > To help me understand better I'd like to use an example from one of the
> > practice
> > tests I'm using. This is from the "Switching" section:
> >
> > "There are two links connecting Cat-2 and Cat-3 together. Make sure that
> if
> > one
> > link fails, the other will start working, but not until then."
> >
> > Now, an earlier requirement had you shutdown all links between Cat-3 and
> > all
> >
> > other switches.... with the exception of the two links between Cat-3 and
> > Cat-2
> > -so these two links are Cat-3s only connection to the rest of the
> network.
> > There are no specific requirements to create an etherchannel between
> Cat-2
> > and
> > Cat-3. So... after reading the above requirement I would think I could do
> > one of
> > two things: 1. Flex Link, 2. Normal spanning-tree, which, as long as I
> > don't
> > establish
> > an etherchannel would block one of the two links and bring that blocked
> > link
> > up
> > in the event that the forwarding link failed. Is this the kind of thing I
> > can ask a
> > proctor about? Can I go to him/her and repeat what I've written above...
> > and
> > expect
> > him/her to tell me which method would be preferred?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bryan R.
> >
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