Re: Open-Ended Questions - by Darby

The open ended questions are 21 points - the proctor will tell you that. The
exam is 79 points... There is no rumor about it. The proctor will also tell
you that the questions are not of a ccie difficulty, which they are not.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Guys...
>
> The Open-Ended Questions are "General Questions" about the fundamental
> operations about the various technologies a candidate might be expected to
> face in the CCIE Lab.
>
> Simple as that.
>
> After much research, deliberation, qa, and making my own questions for the
> process and yes like everyone else I bought the others and tried IPExperts'
> version. My thought process is better to have than to "have not"...
>
> Some things start to occur to me.
>
> 1. A well-qualified candidated would be expected to know the technologies
> of
> the CCIE Lab and thus these short answer questions would not be considered
> much of a bother.
>
> 2. I've reviewed a lot of Networkers slides.
>
> 3. A formerly common resource I used to refer to a lot is no longer
> available.
>
> 4. The Cisco 360 Program has emerged.
>
> 5. A few more things I'm not telling you publicly, but hey... you wanna
> know what I know you gotta sell your soul and promise to never sleep again
> till you die. Your choice.
>
> So...
>
> My recommendations:
>
> 1. If you have access to the Networkers / Cisco Live Techtutorials - I'd
> recommend you take a peak under the hood.
>
> 2. If you ever heard of a guy named Caslow - you might remember he once
> offered a book for sale and it is filled with Core Knowledge that might be
> expected to be "Common Knowledge" of many of the technologies that are
> still
> offered today. Not all but most of the ones most of us will probably need
> to be concerned with.
>
> 3. Cisco offers something called Frequently Asked Questions about the "Core
> Knowledge" of each Routing Protocol and/or technology and they are
> amazingly
> "FREE" and they also happen construct a nice sized little book if printed
> out - Save a tree.
>
> 4. Cisco offers little Tech Notes and some of these also contain well-known
> caveats - The kind of caveats every CCIE Candidate might be expected to
> know
> and to know well. Hmmm? Ya think?
>
> 5. Having been to the lab a few times before this and answering a million
> questions about "Core Knowledge" in every corner of the Internet - even the
> deepest and darkest crevices... it comes to my attention that certain
> concepts trick the mind and play games...
>
> Example:
>
> Split-Horizon - Give an example in OSPF, EIGRP, BGP, and RIP.
>
> Now take this example and amplify it.
>
> Give a practical example of each and explain why.
>
> Now go back and read the question again... Many will fail this series and
> lineup of questions.
>
> Why? Because they have not considered all of the issues with each protocol
> and perhaps may think that one or none of them is applicable to the
> question. Common Knowledge - Common Mistake by the "Less than Expert".
>
>
> No suppose I asked you about the basic underpinnings of each protocol
> commonly seen on the CCIE Lab... We all know them... those of us who
> studied. Gunmen may or may not be expected to be able even guess at them.
>
> Read that again...
>
> Nope, I don't think you got it.... Try again.
>
> Ok - Now go and do your homework.
>
> That's what this is going to come down to.
>
> How many CCIE's feel comfortable explaining the "Technology" to a peer, a
> junior tech, a boardroom, or even their spouse?
>
> Yep - you got it... and that is why even a question about Split-Horizon,
> Mutlicast, or IPv6... and the basic operation of each technology is scaring
> the hell out of the majority of everyone.
>
> Now - Candidates will say it is unfair if they fail and easy if they pass.
>
>
> Hah!
>
> Perception is in the eye of the beholder.
>
> Hindsight is 20/20.
>
> I hear a lot of people say... I found 1 of the 4 or 5 in a CCNA book
> somehwere and I knew 1 or 2 of the others... and I don't know how they
> expected me to know the last one...
>
> Or... I interpretted the question wrongly.
>
>
> Yep - If you are like me and the Internet is your playground then you may
> well have heard (I daresay) every story on the net by now.
>
>
> The biggest rumor I like is that the questions are valued at explicitly "21
> points".
>
> And the test is now only 79 points.
>
>
> Hmmm...
>
> Ok - I heard something to that effect from an authority.
>
> Sorry, I don't buy it.
>
> I like the other story better:
>
> 4-5 questions and then go take the lab.
>
> Score Report said... Passed.
>
> Score Report said either 0, 75, or 100% for the live questions.
>
> And x percent for the rest of the questions...
>
>
> Hey - You can drink whatever coolaid you need in the morning and before you
> go to bed.
>
> Effectively if you fail the questions - they might as well be 21 points.
> Agreed.
>
> However, if you do well on that section... I think you still better plan on
> chalking up your 80 points.
>
> I won't know with my own eyes till I get back in the ring with the beast.
>
> All things in due time.
>
>
> Go back and rre-read this and if you can read between the lines - and are
> strong in the ways of the wind.... what I've written is as clear as glass
> if
> not it is going to sound like I'm behind a steel wall.
>
> Hint: If you still don't know what I mean... You'd better stand up and
> scream, cause there's things going on that you don't know.
>
>
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