Re: Core Knowledge - Don't mis-interpret this

So wats the written test for?

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I still remember when a lot fo people claimed to fail on ISDN... or
> Multicast... or BGP... etc.
>
> I think Cisco is implying that CCIE's should understand the basic tenets of
> the technology.
>
> Sadly and unfortunately truly many people just want to pass the lab and
> skip by without truly understanding the technologies. Why not, others have
> done so before... Some say they are too busy to learn the stuff they just
> need to pass the lab and get on with life.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Asif Gul Khan <nockhi_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Larry Mate,
>>
>> Better luck next time, i believe the things hard earned are always worth
>> it!
>> You are very very right in saying Cisco should put around 15 to 20
>> questions
>> to test "THE" knowledge rather than 4, its simply not fair, CCIE is
>> something you need to earn rather than putting everything at luck... 4
>> questions to test the theory/concepts or watever they want to test simply
>> dont not makes sense!
>>
>> Ron, narbik was not pointing out to larry, he is just clarifying Cisco
>> point
>> of view .... rite Narbik ???
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > A grabbing subject which I have seen tons of posts on. The problem is
>> the
>> > section is not what it implies...
>> >
>> > I usually don't post much but for some reason I have not heard anyone
>> > explain what is expected from this section. Some say to read and know
>> your
>> > core L3 stuff really good... other say that it is so easy that you don't
>> > have to study... Well I figured I would assist in this quest as I failed
>> > the
>> > test a few weeks back because of this very topic and think there is a
>> > feeling out there that if you know your routing/L3 you will be okay....
>> > Don't be fooled by Core Knowledge - know your ip services/features and
>> off
>> > topics and know how to configure them w/o the doc cd (or at least try).
>> >
>> > Here is a post that I added to my blog, take it for what it is worth. I
>> > have
>> > talked to a lot of other candidates some that had similar experiences
>> and
>> > some had such basic stuff that a ccna could answer. Hopefully this will
>> > save
>> > someone $1400!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ___- Failed Attempt -
>> > ______________________________________________________
>> > __________________________________________________________
>> >
>> > Been a couple weeks now since my last attempt. The lab went really good,
>> > felt like I got a test that I knew everything on. Finished up at 1:29 in
>> > the
>> > afternoon and had the rest of the time to review. I reviewed the entire
>> > exam
>> > twice and found 4 errors which would have cost some big points. My lab
>> > score...... over 90% in 4 sections....
>> >
>> > Problem is I didn't get open ended questions that I knew, or
>> understood....
>> > One question was about the configuration of a subset of an ip feature. I
>> > have done IE, IPEXPERT and all of the ASET labs and have not seen this
>> > "feature" on any of them. The other question I guess I missed was one
>> > written in classic cisco language of which I have still to find the
>> answer
>> > or the meaning of the question. The other questions that I got were
>> basic
>> > scenario type questions that required you to know the default values and
>> > configurations of the feature in question. Not hard if you had done a
>> ton
>> > of
>> > labs (like I had).
>> >
>> > I know there are people out there that say the questions are so basic
>> that
>> > any CCIE level candidate should know and I agree. In fact I found one of
>> my
>> > questions in the chapter summary of one of my cisco press books for the
>> > ccnp. What is wrong with this type of testing is that there are only 4
>> > questions. If you are suppose to be a CCIE you should know 80% of
>> > everything
>> > they throw at you. So with only 4 questions you are at a risk of getting
>> 2
>> > questions (or in my case a badly worded question in which no help can be
>> > asked) which you don't know even though you know more than 80% of the
>> > material. Why not give us 10 - 20 questions and expand the lab another
>> 30
>> > mins. Then the chances of a well prepared ccie candidate getting less
>> than
>> > 80% are almost non-existant.
>> >
>> > I am not at all against the ccie and I think that cisco had to do
>> > something.
>> > After all, I will get this certification and when I do I want all the
>> hours
>> > that have taken away from my family and friends to mean something. But I
>> > think they missed the challenge on this one....
>> >
>> >
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