Re: My 1st attempt is Friday...

Dear all

how would I know that I'm 100% ready, I think passing mock labs is not
indicate that I will pass the lab,

Since there is open ended!!!

How would I know that I will paaaaaass ?

can someone share his knowledge please?

SE
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:29 PM, michael haynes <mghaynes_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I wouldn't say it's a lack of confidence exactly - I just want to
> understand
> what Cisco is looking for as much as possible the same as I do for the lab
> configuration portion. I probably would feel better if Cisco had actually
> gone all the way and had a concept interview instead of just a few short
> answer questions. I would also feel better if it was merely one component
> of the overall score rather than a completely separate section with an
> extremely heavy weight attached to it.
>
> However, I have no control over these elements so I just seek to understand
> how to prepare - and you guys have all been very helpful in that regard.
> Thanks!
> Michael
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > *Anyways folks, do not let this stuff undermine your studies. Keep your
> > head down and your confidence up.*
> > Well said, could not agree MORE.
> >
> > Some of you guys are freaking out for no reason. I see some questions
> that
> > clearly shows that some of us have absolutely no confidence whatsoever,
> How
> > should your employee trust your knowledge, if you don't?
> > What difference does it make if they give you 4 questions versus 5? The
> big
> > question is, are you ready? Did you study properly? Which i am sure we
> all
> > did, then, TRUST IS A MUST. gO THERE AND KICK a$$
> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Anthony Sequeira <
> > asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This is an awesome post! Thanks for the clarification.
> >>
> >> How funny, you pass the Core Knowledge and fail the Lab portion, you
> >> request a re-read, and the re-read you Core Knowledge. I would
> specifically
> >> NOT WANT THEM TO DO THAT.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Anyways folks, do not let this stuff undermine your studies. Keep your
> >> head down and your confidence up.
> >>
> >> Warmest Regards,
> >>
> >> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> >> Senior CCIE Instructor
> >>
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> >>
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> >> I must be teaching, my iTunes is stopped!
> >>
> >> On Apr 17, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Josh Fleishman wrote:
> >>
> >> If you fail the short answer section Cisco deems the exam ineligible for
> a
> >>> reread. It doesn't matter how you did on the lab portion. Apparantly
> >>> they
> >>> have so much faith that their expected answers are the only legitimate
> >>> answers and therefore a reread cannot result in changing your score
> from
> >>> a
> >>> fail to a pass. You can however open a ticket to ensure your answers
> >>> were
> >>> saved correctly and that you didn't fail due to technical glitch.
> >>>
> >>> Apparently if you fail the lab portion but pass the core knowledge
> >>> section
> >>> and you request a reread, the core knowledge section will also be
> reread.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, this does not seem to make a lot of sense. If the second case
> >>> warrants
> >>> a reread of the core knowledge section, then why wouldn't a reread of a
> >>> failed core knowledge section warrant one?
> >>>
> >>> My best advice to you is to get lucky, and receive 3 questions that you
> >>> can
> >>> answer with answers they expect. I've noticed a lot of folks feeling
> >>> like
> >>> they aced the core knowledge section but found out via their score
> report
> >>> that they failed. I haven't heard anyone say they didn't find at least
> >>> three out of the four questions to be quite easy - even those who
> failed
> >>> the
> >>> section seem to agree.
> >>>
> >>> -Josh
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Larry Hadrava <lhadrava_at_ipexpert.com
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thameem:
> >>>> I did not make the comments you are quoting. I believe that Anthony
> and
> >>>> some
> >>>> others might have made those comments.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, I have looked into this and according to the Cisco
> >>>> certifications
> >>>> online support portal, there will be a reread of the open ended
> >>>> questions
> >>>> sections as well. However, you may not ask for a reread of just the
> open
> >>>> ended questions.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ciscocert.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> _faqid=4610&p_created=1231808224&p_sid=EWPC1zvj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> &p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MzksMzkm
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> cF9wcm9kcz0xOTY0LDE5NjUsMTk2NiZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9My4xOTY2JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0x&
> >>>> p_li=&p_topview=1
> >>>>
> >>>> Larry Hadrava
> >>>> CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
> >>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> >>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
> http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
> >>>> http://www.ipexpert.com/>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Thameem Maranveetil Parambath <
> >>>> tparamba_at_thecontactcentre.ae> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> * The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you purchase an
> >>>>> exam
> >>>>> re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Larry, whats the meaning of the above statement then?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> May be cisco has re-thaughts on this section?
> >>>>> Also what i heard before was you have to score full in this section
> for
> >>>>> Pass.. but now it is said that one question fail is OK for passing?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did i mistaken the replies?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Thameem
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> michael haynes <mghaynes_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> Sent by: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>>> 17/04/2009 04:43 PM
> >>>>> Please respond to
> >>>>> michael haynes <mghaynes_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To
> >>>>> Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> cc
> >>>>> Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com>,
> >>>>> "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >>>>> Subject
> >>>>> Re: My 1st attempt is Friday...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I really appreciate all the comments about the questions. Knowing
> the
> >>>>> process is half the battle against anxiety ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michael
> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anthony / All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you fail the questions you do not get a regrade. They will not
> even
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> give
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> you the option on your score report, unfortunately I know this first
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> hand
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you purchase an
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> exam
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Anthony Sequeira <
> >>>>>> asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Michael!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have reported you to Cisco for asking about these questions!!!!!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> :-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They have been very open (no pun intended) about the rules
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> surrounding
> >>>>
> >>>>> these questions. Here is a list of some key ones for you...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * You must complete this portion of the exam before you start the
> >>>>>>> traditional configuration portion.
> >>>>>>> * You have a total of 30 minutes to complete this section, you may
> >>>>>>> finish early if you like and immediately begin your configuration
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> section.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * You will receive 4 questions via the computer and you must
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> provide
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> short answers using the computer interface. The questions are not
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> oral
> >>>>
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> nature. Typical responses require 4 to 5 words at most.
> >>>>>>> * Spelling and/or grammar does not count against you.
> >>>>>>> * The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you purchase
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> an
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> exam re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
> >>>>>>> * You may not return to the short answer questions once you have
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> begun
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the configuration portion of the lab exam.
> >>>>>>> * You will not receive a score when you complete this section, but
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> must pass this portion to pass the CCIE. You will receive your score
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> open-ended section if you fail the exam. The score is reported as
> 0%
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 100%
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (pass or fail). You may only miss one question in the section in
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> order
> >>>>
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> pass.
> >>>>>>> * Most students finish the 4 to 5 questions in approximately 12
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> minutes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * The configuration portion of the exam has been reduced to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> accommodate
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> this initial 30 minutes.
> >>>>>>> * You still have a total of 8 hours that makeup the open-ended
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> questions
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and the configuration portion.
> >>>>>>> * You may not access the DOC-CD to answer these questions.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think that list answers your questions, but if you are concerned
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> anything else - let us know!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Warmest Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> >>>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>> The Cure from
> >>>>>>> 4:13 Dream
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2009, at 12:17 PM, michael haynes wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to ask about the Core questions,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> also feeling very anxious about this section even though my lab
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> isn't
> >>>>
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> awhile still. When this section was first announced, I was under
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> impression that the questions would be graded prior to allowing the
> >>>>>>>> candidate to sit the lab portion - if you potentially are writing
> an
> >>>>>>>> essay,
> >>>>>>>> what kind of delay does that give you between completing that
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> section
> >>>>
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> getting the go-ahead to start the lab...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And if it's all graded at the end of the 8 hours, that seems kind
> of
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> cruel
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> when you can fail all your marks by getting 2 core questions wrong.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If anyone can elaborate without breaking NDA, I'd sure appreciate
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> some
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> insight.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Michael
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Bryan Bartik <
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would not worry about being too brief. If the answer can be
> said
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> in 3
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>> 4
> >>>>>>>>> words, than that's all you need. I am only mentioning this so you
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> worry about having too short an answer. That being said, I don't
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> would hurt to elaborate if possible.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Good luck,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Bryan Bartik
> >>>>>>>>> CCIE #23707, CCNP
> >>>>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
> >>>>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
> http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
> >>>>
> >>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com/>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Jonny English <
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> good luck man. 1st attempt, just don't have any expectations and
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> put
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> too much pressure on yourself.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> you will be fine.....
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Chris Kleban <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Chris.Kleban_at_citrix.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Wish me luck.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm more nervous about the 30 minute open ended questions then
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>> lab
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> work....
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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