Re: My 1st attempt is Friday...

* You must complete this portion of the exam before you start
* You may not access the DOC-CD to answer these questions.

Did anyone else noticed the difference in those two statements?

Other synonyms for **may** are possibly, might, etc, etc.... Depending on
one's English orientation/background, one could read that second sentence
and think GEE! Cisco is giving me a choice between accessing the DOC-CD and
not accessing it. When we all know that, what they actually meant is ....

* You MUST NOT access the DOC-CD to answer these questions.

I know, it will not cost extra money to make the instructions a little
clearer, especially for foreign candidates.

Godswill Oletu
CCIE #16464 (R&S)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Sequeira" <asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com>
To: "michael haynes" <mghaynes_at_gmail.com>
Cc: "Bryan Bartik" <bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>; "Jonny English"
<redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>; "Chris Kleban" <Chris.Kleban_at_citrix.com>;
<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: My 1st attempt is Friday...

> Hi Michael!
>
> I have reported you to Cisco for asking about these questions!!!!!
>
> :-)
>
> They have been very open (no pun intended) about the rules surrounding
> these questions. Here is a list of some key ones for you...
>
> * You must complete this portion of the exam before you start the
> traditional configuration portion.
> * You have a total of 30 minutes to complete this section, you may
> finish early if you like and immediately begin your configuration
> section.
> * You will receive 4 questions via the computer and you must provide
> short answers using the computer interface. The questions are not oral in
> nature. Typical responses require 4 to 5 words at most.
> * Spelling and/or grammar does not count against you.
> * The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you purchase an
> exam re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
> * You may not return to the short answer questions once you have
> begun the configuration portion of the lab exam.
> * You will not receive a score when you complete this section, but
> you must pass this portion to pass the CCIE. You will receive your score
> in the open-ended section if you fail the exam. The score is reported as
> 0% or 100% (pass or fail). You may only miss one question in the section
> in order to pass.
> * Most students finish the 4 to 5 questions in approximately 12
> minutes.
> * The configuration portion of the exam has been reduced to
> accommodate this initial 30 minutes.
> * You still have a total of 8 hours that makeup the open-ended
> questions and the configuration portion.
> * You may not access the DOC-CD to answer these questions.
>
> I think that list answers your questions, but if you are concerned about
> anything else - let us know!
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> Senior CCIE Instructor
>
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>
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> On Apr 16, 2009, at 12:17 PM, michael haynes wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to ask about the Core questions, but
>> I'm
>> also feeling very anxious about this section even though my lab isn't
>> for
>> awhile still. When this section was first announced, I was under the
>> impression that the questions would be graded prior to allowing the
>> candidate to sit the lab portion - if you potentially are writing an
>> essay,
>> what kind of delay does that give you between completing that section
>> and
>> getting the go-ahead to start the lab...
>>
>> And if it's all graded at the end of the 8 hours, that seems kind of
>> cruel
>> when you can fail all your marks by getting 2 core questions wrong.
>>
>> If anyone can elaborate without breaking NDA, I'd sure appreciate some
>> insight.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Bryan Bartik <bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I would not worry about being too brief. If the answer can be said in 3
>>> or
>>> 4
>>> words, than that's all you need. I am only mentioning this so you don't
>>> worry about having too short an answer. That being said, I don't think
>>> it
>>> would hurt to elaborate if possible.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Bryan Bartik
>>> CCIE #23707, CCNP
>>> Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> good luck man. 1st attempt, just don't have any expectations and don't
>>> put
>>>> too much pressure on yourself.
>>>>
>>>> you will be fine.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Chris Kleban <Chris.Kleban_at_citrix.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wish me luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm more nervous about the 30 minute open ended questions then the
>>>>> lab
>>>>> work....
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Kleban
>>>>>
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