Re: OT: QOS on Signaling Traffic for Mobile operators, SIGTRAN,

From: Ahmed Elhoussiny <aelhoussiny_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:06:04 +0200

Hello Guys,
                  The Signaling for STPs/Soft switches or SIGTRAN /HLR/
Prepaid/IN signaling is running over IP.
                  Thats the default.

But the TDM /L2 , we have made a C3845 which is cable of time-division
multiplexing (TDM) interconnections,
As it has (NM-CEM-4TE1) to enable the CEoIP ( curcuit Emulation over IP )

This C3845 is connected directly to the PE, so from CE-PE that no problem ,
only this traffic is passing through.
But inside the Backbone ? , by default cisco Interfaces mark thsi traffic as
PREC 5 / EF.
So by default it will take EXP 5 on MPLS and go with teh VOIP
Queue..........

Will this make a problem, or is this teh best practise for Mobile Operators
, Does any one have a Best practise guide , or wellknown site for this kind
of designs ?

 Im really thankfull for you both guys for you help in this, so seems to me
that im going to words 2 LLQs or 1 LLQ holding all Voice &
signaling.......All im afraid of is teh Signaling traffic (SIGTRAN ) , if it
got a Large Packet size , i may suffer of internal jitter in teh queue.

Ahmed Elhoussiny,CCIE # 21988

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_markom.info>wrote:

> Pseudowires as vendors call them are just standardized approach to
> doing TDMoIP and all of them suffer from the same issue. The point is
> that IP is inheretly asynchronous, while "GSM" requires synch between
> BTS's in order to hand over clients between them. When pressed about
> these issues, every single vendor will reply with the same answer:
> Yeah, it's an issue, but you can use adaptive sync. When pressed more:
> Yeah, we know. Use GP$.
>
> Unfortunately, working for Vodafone (Iceland), I know this all too well :-)
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 09:54, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > hehe...Good point...
> > For that there is another technology called "Psudowire", that has better
> > clock than normal TDMoIP products. This psudowire is specially designed
> for
> > ATM/IMA over Ethernet. These product even can keep BTS/BSC sync over a
> > business grade DSL/(ADSL2+).
> >
> > Totally new market.
> >
> > Cheers
> > -frog
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_markom.info>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:26, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > TDMoIP is not bad. All it needs is a good QoS and fat pippe :)
> >>
> >> It's not bad at all for POTS backhaul and similar applications. For
> >> mobile backhaul, it's not at all good, as it requires extra ffort to
> >> support things like cell handover. Especially if your BTS' don't
> >> support adaptive clock sync.

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