Re: To All

Want something better? We should definitely let go of certifications
already... instead of studying to pass a test, go actually learn stuff and
use it.
I know a lot of people that just don't care about certs, and they are as
good as us and are as recognized as us, not for their badges but for their
work.

Just my 2c...

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Ahsan Mohiuddin
<ahsan.mohiuddin_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Darby, it seems to me a waste of time and energy.. the ship's going down;
> and we are all going down with it *sigh*. For all we know cisco high-ups
> might be enjoying this heated debate of ours, since we NEVER get their
> official word even when all hell breaks loose. i guess cisco management is
> too g*ddam 'distributed' to come up with any swift/useful/decisive action
> regarding their formerly "industry-leading, A-class" certification program.
> Sir John, hi there, can you hear us Sir.. please? we really need your help.
> Somebody please grab his attention
>
> Lets do Juniper or Foundry or Riverbed certs and hope that by the the time
> the braindumpers can catch up, we will be sitting pretty in the high-up
> management roles, and the 'mere technicalities' will no longer be an
> issue... anybody think that a good idea? or is that just plain bs coming
> out
> of my overstressed, understimulated brain?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Guys - IT IS NOT AN APRIL FOOL'S JOKE!
> >
> > NO IT IS NOT.
> >
> > It was there long before April and one of the guys from Sadikhov pointed
> it
> > out to me after I started cleaning Sadikhov.com of every post that hints
> of
> > mentioning P4S, TK, or the like. There are older posts but there are not
> > any
> > newer posts and if there are they are deleted on sight and the members
> > posting the questions are banned for 7 days - those posting anything that
> > breaks copyright get banned for 1 month to 12 months - effectively
> removing
> > their ability to post any longer at all.
> >
> > Trust me this is no joke.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Pavel Bykov <slidersv_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It looks like fake from the name.
> > > His name is Gay... a bit self explanatory. And if you count in all the
> > > Berries, then the intent of the author seems obvious.
> > > Reported it non the less... this was really a downer.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Nick <ccieaz_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> shocking, i cant believe it.
> > >>
> > >> On a side not, there is no Cisco employee called "Gay Berryman", or
> even
> > >> with the second name "Berryman". So i think its a April fool or some
> > kind
> > >> of fake.
> > >>
> > >> Nick
> > >>
> > >> 2009/4/2 Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> > >>
> > >> > BTW - Here is a prime example of the mentality of the faithful
> Brain
> > >> > Dumper
> > >> > community that is thoroughly enraged at not having access to the
> > latest
> > >> > dumps, CBTS, and other copyrighted materials at his fingertips:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > [QUOTE (neo_adi @ Mar 21 2009, 05:35 PM)] [image:
> > >> > *]<http://www.sadikhov.com/forum/index.php?act=findpost&pid=823528>
> > >> > I'm sure that braindumps weren't the only things shared in the
> OFFERs
> > >> and
> > >> > request section..
> > >> > Some really good CBTs and ebooks were shared.. hope the admins do
> look
> > >> at
> > >> > it
> > >> > and see to it that some arrangement is made to get back those posts
> on
> > >> > those
> > >> > really wonderful CBT's and ebooks, study notes avaialable here...
> > >> > [End of Quote]
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > [Quote]
> > >> > yes this is the main reason why Sadikov was my first stop when new
> > cbts
> > >> > from
> > >> > cbtnuggets or trainsignal I even was apart of a few group buys here
> > >> which
> > >> > built some cool online tech friendships
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > For the guy who said maybe this will give us true techs a chance at
> > jobs
> > >> > you
> > >> > are a FAKE SIR!!! Any real tech knows right now the I.T field exp
> > >> anything
> > >> > with CISCO , sharepoint , exc hange and server 2008 puts you at the
> > top
> > >> of
> > >> > the list for jobs.
> > >> >
> > >> > Get this braindump mentality out of your heads now its bad
> > information.
> > >> The
> > >> > only way a braindump is bad is if you put no effort into studying
> try
> > to
> > >> > buy
> > >> > 1 and then memorize those answers
> > >> >
> > >> > The correct way to use a brain dump and how we do it at the pentagon
> > and
> > >> > GOV
> > >> > level
> > >> >
> > >> > 1) Pick a course
> > >> > 2) Get the official book and try to find a cbt which relates to the
> > >> subject
> > >> > 3) Cbts usually in the begin give you ideas on what lab to build ,
> as
> > >> you
> > >> > are reading try to simulate and do the same things the author or cbt
> > >> > teacher
> > >> > is doing mostly getting used to areas in a program or command line
> > >> > 4) Finish the book and cbt << You have now earned your right to seek
> > >> > answers
> > >> > from any source possible now
> > >> > 5) If having issues with wondering how they are going to attack you
> on
> > a
> > >> > test get a practice test or pass4sure
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > For those who go straight to step 5 without doing the other get
> ready
> > to
> > >> > have a employer laugh you at of his office during the interview
> > because
> > >> you
> > >> > will show right then and there you have no idea about the subject .
> > Most
> > >> > employers will only want to know do you know anything about this
> > >> question
> > >> > topic and whats the main area or tool you will use to troubleshoot
> > >> >
> > >> > [End of Quote]
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > You see you'd have thought the Admin over at Sadikhov and guys like
> me
> > >> > killed their favorite dog or something.
> > >> >
> > >> > No people, in case you are a little slow, P4S and others are NOT
> > >> legitimate
> > >> > study aids.
> > >> >
> > >> > Go to certguard.com and check their lists. They'll help you see
> the
> > >> > light.
> > >> >
> > >> >
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pavel Bykov
> > > ----------------
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> value
> > of
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