From: sheherezada@gmail.com
Date: Mon Mar 30 2009 - 13:57:16 ART
I've just heard from my channel SE that in the US Cisco indeed started
to invalidate CCIE certifications based on "renting", but it is still
not clear to me what agreement was broken (I only know about the CCIE
rules for partners being very specific). It also seems that it is
allowed to work full time for a partner and part-time otherwise, but
not vice-versa. Anyhow, since I can not directly verify this (I live
in Europe), take is as a rumor.
So it seems it became more serious than I thought.
Mihai
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Tim <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> It seems to me that if you look at the total number of ccie's and then look
> at the total number of ccie's needed based on the number of Cisco Gold,
> Silver, and Premium partners, the numbers don't add up.
>
> Of course, one would have to estimate the number of ccie's working for non
> Cisco resellers and also the number of ccie's working for Cisco itself.
> But, if we subtract out those ccie's, it seems there wouldn't be enough
> ccie's for all the Cisco Partners out there.
>
> Therefore, I suspect that this practice of "renting" out one's ccie number
> is fairly widespread and the Cisco looks the other way.
>
> But, like was said earlier, both the Partner and the ccie are taking a risk
> and probably it's a bigger risk for the ccie because Cisco can invalidate
> the cert.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Thomas Perrier
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:08 PM
> To: Ruhann
> Cc: Radioactive Frog; Taufik Kurniawan; Darby Weaver; Duane Dewitt; Jai
> Prakash; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT : Regarding CCIE NO Association with Company
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Ruhann <groupstudy@ru.co.za> wrote:
>> Frog, Rather interesting reading the feedback you got, I cant advise if it
>> is right/wrong, ethical or not.
>>
>> But I can tell I know of a person from a friend, that is doing exactly
>> that, he is working for company A, and has "rented out" the use of his
> CCIE
>> # to company B.
>> They paying him to use his CCIE # , inline for their GOLD status, for some
>> perdiod of time I really dont know, signed apparently with some terms.
>>
>> Whether or not it is allowed firstly, I do not know, and if not, it would
> be
>> interesting to know what the penalty implications are for Company B and
>> Individual X if exposed.
>> Or if it is allowed? (if so nice way to earn some extra douw for your IE)
>
> By doing this the partner is breaking his contract with Cisco. If at
> audit time that's discovered, well... some heads are gonna roll. Read
> again the Cisco partner rules I sent in reply a few hours ago (I won't
> copy it entirely again), and notice the following key words:
> full-time regular employee residing in the country where certification is
> sought
> CCIE must have exclusive, full-time contract with partner in country
> seeking certification
>
> Some people do it anyways... Sure, and some people cheat at exams too
> (ask Darby ;). It's anyone's choice to which side of the fence they
> prefer.
>
> -Thomas
>
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