From: Tim (ccie2be@nyc.rr.com)
Date: Mon Mar 30 2009 - 13:41:03 ART
It seems to me that if you look at the total number of ccie's and then look
at the total number of ccie's needed based on the number of Cisco Gold,
Silver, and Premium partners, the numbers don't add up.
Of course, one would have to estimate the number of ccie's working for non
Cisco resellers and also the number of ccie's working for Cisco itself.
But, if we subtract out those ccie's, it seems there wouldn't be enough
ccie's for all the Cisco Partners out there.
Therefore, I suspect that this practice of "renting" out one's ccie number
is fairly widespread and the Cisco looks the other way.
But, like was said earlier, both the Partner and the ccie are taking a risk
and probably it's a bigger risk for the ccie because Cisco can invalidate
the cert.
Just my 2 cents.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Thomas Perrier
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:08 PM
To: Ruhann
Cc: Radioactive Frog; Taufik Kurniawan; Darby Weaver; Duane Dewitt; Jai
Prakash; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: OT : Regarding CCIE NO Association with Company
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Ruhann <groupstudy@ru.co.za> wrote:
> Frog, Rather interesting reading the feedback you got, I cant advise if it
> is right/wrong, ethical or not.
>
> But I can tell I know of a person from a friend, that is doing exactly
> that, he is working for company A, and has "rented out" the use of his
CCIE
> # to company B.
> They paying him to use his CCIE # , inline for their GOLD status, for some
> perdiod of time I really dont know, signed apparently with some terms.
>
> Whether or not it is allowed firstly, I do not know, and if not, it would
be
> interesting to know what the penalty implications are for Company B and
> Individual X if exposed.
> Or if it is allowed? (if so nice way to earn some extra douw for your IE)
By doing this the partner is breaking his contract with Cisco. If at
audit time that's discovered, well... some heads are gonna roll. Read
again the Cisco partner rules I sent in reply a few hours ago (I won't
copy it entirely again), and notice the following key words:
full-time regular employee residing in the country where certification is
sought
CCIE must have exclusive, full-time contract with partner in country
seeking certification
Some people do it anyways... Sure, and some people cheat at exams too
(ask Darby ;). It's anyone's choice to which side of the fence they
prefer.
-Thomas
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