From: Godswill Oletu (oletu@inbox.lv)
Date: Sun Mar 29 2009 - 14:08:53 ART
This is the Cisco policy regarding this:
http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/customer/765/partner_programs/certification/gold_ov.pdf
There is residency requirement and I stand corrected on that, but there is
not in the policy that indicated that doing it within the border of a single
country is illegal or even amount to cheating.
Cisco spelled out in that document, that for CCIEs, the partner can use
contract staff, as long as the contract staff component is not more than
50%. Except where an existing contract specifically indicates otherwise;
there is nothing illegal or unethical for one to work for multiple
companies, as long as there is no conflicts or all conflicts are made known
to all parties involved in advacne.
There are 168 hours in a week and we do not dedicate 100% of them to our
primary employer. Each person can chooses how best to use the idle hours.
In the case in question; the potential conflict of interest was made known
to the current employer and they seems to be fine with it. The only problem
is Cisco's residency requirement, apart from that and except someone will
indicate to me where it is stated otherwise; it appears to be completely
legal when done with full disclosure in your country of residency.
Godswill Oletu
CCIE #16464 (R&S)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Perrier" <thomas@perrier.name>
To: "Ruhann" <groupstudy@ru.co.za>
Cc: "Radioactive Frog" <pbhatkoti@gmail.com>; "Taufik Kurniawan"
<ktaufik@gmail.com>; "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>; "Duane Dewitt"
<Duane.Dewitt@za.verizonbusiness.com>; "Jai Prakash" <jpjsr06@gmail.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: OT : Regarding CCIE NO Association with Company
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Ruhann <groupstudy@ru.co.za> wrote:
>> Frog, Rather interesting reading the feedback you got, I cant advise if
>> it
>> is right/wrong, ethical or not.
>>
>> But I can tell I know of a person from a friend, that is doing exactly
>> that, he is working for company A, and has "rented out" the use of his
>> CCIE
>> # to company B.
>> They paying him to use his CCIE # , inline for their GOLD status, for
>> some
>> perdiod of time I really dont know, signed apparently with some terms.
>>
>> Whether or not it is allowed firstly, I do not know, and if not, it would
>> be
>> interesting to know what the penalty implications are for Company B and
>> Individual X if exposed.
>> Or if it is allowed? (if so nice way to earn some extra douw for your
>> IE)
>
> By doing this the partner is breaking his contract with Cisco. If at
> audit time that's discovered, well... some heads are gonna roll. Read
> again the Cisco partner rules I sent in reply a few hours ago (I won't
> copy it entirely again), and notice the following key words:
> full-time regular employee residing in the country where certification is
> sought
> CCIE must have exclusive, full-time contract with partner in country
> seeking certification
>
> Some people do it anyways... Sure, and some people cheat at exams too
> (ask Darby ;). It's anyone's choice to which side of the fence they
> prefer.
>
> -Thomas
>
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