From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Mar 28 2009 - 21:20:22 ART
Ok - So you are saying we are in agreement... We need to take a stance and
everyone of us that wants to earn any credential the right way needs to
"squish the bug"...
Sorry - You just seem to be taking the same stance that so many of the
cretins who did who were not pleased with the putrifying of the "WELL"...
I don't think I credited you with belonging the staff on either side of the
pond...
You would not want to stain your name with that... why go there.
Cisco needs to take a stance - that what needs to happen.
As long as sites like this one and the one it came from "certcollection.org"
are permitted to exist as little holes where anyone can go to ask NDA
questions and then let 10,000+ of a dumpers favorite friends qwell a
person's friends and doubts...
Hah!
Anthony asked me "What can I do about" or something to the effect...
Well each vendor can go to the watering hole find the shares that belong to
them and report them to the place where a vendor's copyrighted works are
being hosted.
And take it a step further - ask for the records of the person or ip of the
person who uploaded and shared your copyrighted materials.
Andy Hogard says he did this.
Anyone can.
Everyone can.
You can be private about it if you need to.
There are well over 10,000+ engineers on this list.
The problem is many people here use these places too and many people have
mixed emotions about the issue.
Well at Sadikhov.com where over 150,000 people internationally and maybe
1000+ times that number had free access to questions/answers/discussions...
I read so many "The exam was so... easy"...
How could it be hard with 150,000+ of your favorite friends sharing a
question bank of 50-100 questions...
Hell an 11 year old could pass the exam...
And Sadiq Saad's family of MCP's... well they proved the point and and kids
under 13 were full-fledged MCPs and by CCNP's and if they could take the
CCIE would be CCIE's before they hit the 8th or 10th grade depending on
which kid we are taliking about.
That's just how far this stuff has gotten.
The Written Exam was being passed with as much as 1-4 days of memorization.
6-8 real labs being memorized with as little as 6-8 days of prep work
Now the open-ended questions are easily available for another 30-60 minutes
of hard work.
Why even both taking the exams any more?
People actually studing take a given amount of time and expense.
And these guys - truly a testament to the ubiquitousness of the Internet and
the power of pure memorization and the help of the world's largest study
groups...
Hmmm...
I guess what people really want to know is "What are the questions?" and
"When can they start discussing them publicly?"
That's what people are really trying to say...
So yes I caught a lot of hell of for taking away the easy-way out for so
many...
Who by the way will argue the virtue of passing exams and lab exams in this
fashion...
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