Re: Cisco 360 program

From: Roy Waterman (roy.waterman@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Mar 24 2009 - 04:06:37 ART

Bear in mind this is 15k for what..ONE CCIE training program?

What happens when/if you decide to go for another ccie?

In my opinion no training program for ONE ccie is worth 15k.
Unless you have money to throw away, I would personally go for one of the
favoured lot-less-costly methods :).

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Andy Hogard <andyhogard@gmail.com> wrote:

> 15k USD, is such an overkill ..perhaps its the air conditioning 6 months
> bill money that they make you pay for. ;)
>
> I can have a voice and security rack both setup with that much money!!
> Sheesh!
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Tony Schaffran (GS) <
> groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
>
> > $15,000?????? Do you get to keep the equipment?
> >
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Sr. Network Consultant
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
> > www.cconlinelabs.com
> > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pamela Pinero [mailto:pampinero@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 4:42 PM
> > To: 'Persio Pucci'; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com
> > Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> > Subject: RE: Cisco 360 program
> >
> > Thank you Persio. The 360 program is going to cost $15,000 so I wanted to
> > make sure it was worth my time and money. I am still considering all
> > options
> > at this time. Vendors and other people are welcome to email me off list
> > with
> > suggestions and quotes!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Persio Pucci
> > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:01 AM
> > To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com
> > Cc: Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: Cisco 360 program
> >
> > I'd say neither one. The program definitely does not teach the lab,
> > rather it teaches you to see through the lab questions. And the lab is
> > not easy. From the team that had the 360 bootcamps with me, we all
> > have 10+ years of experience with networking. I'd say that the
> > workbook labs are at the same level or harder than the real lab, so if
> > you practice 20+ workbook labs that are harder than the real thing
> > (and by practice I mean try, fail, understand what you did wrong) you
> > stand a better chance at passing it on first try.
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Tony Schaffran (GS)
> > <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
> > > If everybody passes on their first attempt, then what is the good of
> the
> > > cert?
> > >
> > > Either the 360 program is teaching the test or the lab has gotten too
> > easy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Persio Pucci
> > > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 5:48 PM
> > > To: Larry Hadrava
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Cisco 360 program
> > >
> > > Hey Larry,
> > >
> > > First time I joined the Groupstudy forum I remember they were right on
> > > the 12000... And for my first attempt, it still had ISDN (mine never
> > > went up/up, go figure) ATM (and they wanted an SVC for a dial test)
> > > and Dial itself on the lab... This time it was much easier... but the
> > > fact that I knew the monster already kind of helped too.
> > >
> > > As for the 360, from the 6 guys I had on my class (it was delivered
> > > in-company), 4 passed on first try (including myself), one failed and
> > > one still did not take the lab.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Larry Hadrava <lhadrava@ipexpert.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >> Persio:
> > >> Wow - great feedback. So you took the lab back when I did when we
> still
> > > had
> > >> to deal with ISDN and the like. Glad to see that you decided to give
> it
> > >> another shot after so many years.
> > >> Congratulations!!!
> > >> Larry Hadrava
> > >> CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
> > >> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> > >> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:34 PM, <persio@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Pamela,
> > >>>
> > >>> I've used the 360 program for my CCIE R&S lab and all I can say is it
> > was
> > >>> awesome. I used NMC for the 360, and all I can say is their material
> > is
> > >>> fantastic. The workbooks, the lab scenarios, they are all really up
> to
> > > the
> > >>> challenge. Their graded lab system is the state of the art on regards
> > to
> > >>> lab
> > >>> preparation.
> > >>>
> > >>> Their philosophy on making you understand the lab rather than
> teaching
> > > you
> > >>> how
> > >>> to pass it is fantastic. It was almost an overkill to the lab I had.
> > >>>
> > >>> Technically it was my second lab attempt, but since my first attempt
> > was
> > > 6
> > >>> years ago, I consider it a first-attempt pass.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Persio Pucci
> > >>> CCIE# 22112 - R&S
> > >>>
> > >>>
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