From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Mar 20 2009 - 02:12:20 ART
God bless when they start it for Voice....
I've seen some video where some Voice CCIE's have a "little" trouble on the
switching side.... hope it was their first time.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Anbu <ksanpu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all
> Me too failed because of this open ended questions, I have answered as
> much as detail according to the Proctor's Advice , as he said write
> whatever
> you know regard this and don't worry about your grammer. So took 30 min and
> wrote but failed . Other than this Lab is okey , i could manage with in
> that time frame
>
> Regards,
> Anbu
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Richard Humphries <Richardh@aos5.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Yep, I failed mine. The proctor at lunch explained the short answers and
> > said that we should not only answer the question but to explain it in as
> > much detail as possible including possibly how we came up with the answer
> >
> > I opened a case with Cert Support asking if I paid for a re-read if they
> > would grade the short answers as stated (answered in 4-5 words) or if it
> > will be graded like the proctor mentioned at lunch.
> >
> > Here is his response, notice he states that the Short Answers can NOT be
> > regarded. I just emailed him back asking him to clarify as their website
> > says it does get regarded.
> >
> > From: Kathe Saccenti (ksaccent) [mailto:ksaccent@cisco.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:52 PM
> > To: Richard Humphries
> > Subject: FW: CCIE Lab Score Report - #090313-000100
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > As manager of CCIE lab operations, your case was forwarded to me.
> >
> > It is our primary intention that a candidate should not have to spend a
> > great deal of time answering these questions. The questions are designed
> so
> > that you should be able to answer them in a few words. However, the
> > operative word there is should. As these questions are open-ended they
> are
> > subject to a candidate's interpretation. Therefore, you are definitely
> not
> > penalized if your answer is longer or shorter, as long as you do answer
> the
> > question asked.
> >
> > The reason why we state that most answers should be brief is to keep
> > candidates from wasting too much time writing a long paragraphs when a
> > single sentence will serve just as well. Whether you gave a long answer,
> or
> > you were able to provide the appropriate and complete answer in 5 or 6
> words
> > should not make any difference. The grading proctor is purely going to
> look
> > for the correct answer. I don't know if I agree with you should provide
> as
> > much detail as possible without adding that as long as your detail is
> > required in your opinion to answer the question correctly.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you request a reread on your exam, the core fundamentals section is
> not
> > regraded. We do not provide a reread service for these questions.
> > Therefore a grading proctor will not be able to review that portion of
> your
> > exam at all.
> >
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > Kathe
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard Humphries
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> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Anthony Sequeira
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:09 PM
> > To: Pavel Bykov
> > Cc: Anthony Driver; ccie forum
> > Subject: Re: Failing from oral part of lab exam
> >
> > Hi Pavel!
> >
> > I was told by Cisco that students can miss one regardless of 4 or 5.
> >
> > I think you may indeed be correct about a potential 5th question that
> > does not count. Interesting.
> >
> > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> > Senior CCIE Instructor
> >
> > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> >
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> > On Mar 17, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Pavel Bykov wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Anthony.
> > > Just a note when I saw "You will receive 4 questions via the
> > > computer and
> > > you must..." I immediately thought that you can either get 4 or 5.
> > > But then
> > > you mention that later on.
> > >
> > > Also, I heard that you can miss one, but only when you get 5
> > > questions, not
> > > 4. And that 5th question is a "beta question" like we are used to from
> > > theoretical exams when new content is being tested.
> > > Not sure how much of that are rumors/true.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Anthony Sequeira <
> > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yes - people are indeed failing due to the new Core Knowledge section
> > >> of the exam.
> > >>
> > >> It is an open-ended question written section consisting of four
> > >> questions. You must answer at least three correctly.
> > >>
> > >> Here are some more facts:
> > >>
> > >> 7 You must complete this portion of the exam before you start
> > >> the
> > >> traditional configuration portion.
> > >>
> > >> 7 You have a total of 30 minutes to complete this section, you
> > >> may finish early if you like and immediately begin your configuration
> > >> section.
> > >>
> > >> 7 You will receive 4 questions via the computer and you must
> > >> provide short answers using the computer interface. The questions are
> > >> not oral in nature. Typical responses require 4 to 5 words at most.
> > >>
> > >> 7 Spelling and/or grammar does not count against you.
> > >>
> > >> 7 The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you
> > >> purchase
> > >> an exam re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
> > >>
> > >> 7 You may not return to the short answer questions once you have
> > >> begun the configuration portion of the lab exam.
> > >>
> > >> 7 You will not receive a score when you complete this section,
> > >> but you must pass this portion to pass the CCIE. You will receive
> > >> your
> > >> score in the open-ended section if you fail the exam. The score is
> > >> reported as 0% or 100% (pass or fail). You may only miss one question
> > >> in the section in order to pass.
> > >>
> > >> 7 Most students finish the 4 to 5 questions in approximately 12
> > >> minutes.
> > >>
> > >> 7 The configuration portion of the exam has been reduced to
> > >> accommodate this initial 30 minutes.
> > >>
> > >> 7 You still have a total of 8 hours that makeup the open-ended
> > >> questions and the configuration portion.
> > >>
> > >> 7 You may not access the DOC-CD to answer these questions.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> > >> Senior CCIE Instructor
> > >>
> > >> asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> > >>
> > >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > >> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > >> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > >> Outside US: 775-826-4344
> > >>
> > >> On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Anthony Driver wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I have heard that some people have been failing because of the oral
> > >>> part of
> > >>> the lab exam. Is this true?
> > >>>
> > >>>
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