From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Mar 14 2009 - 16:28:41 ARST
Hey -
Here's some advice that anyone considering any class or bootcamp might want
to consider - especially if it is on your own dime:
1. Are you ready for the class?
That's a big question. Only you can answer that question.
2. Have you at least read the command configuration guides and command
reference guides for each technology?
Common Sense - not quite so common actually - Probably not.
Bootcamps and 5-Day or even 10-12 Days Class move incredibly fast. Expect
to spend 4-8 hours on any subject -even BGP, Multicast, or Qos.
If you have not at least read the material - what did you expect someone to
blow smoke in your nose so you just magically learn those topics in 3-4
hours... Strangely enough it never EVER works this way. Lightbulbs go on
for people who spend a lot of time studing these subjects before the
class. Not the quick fix, last minute types.
3. Do you have a firm grasp of frame relay, bridging, arp, and switching
topics like Spanning-Tree....
If not, chances are you may not have enough time to get it in 8 hours that a
class may spend on all those topics - and remember about 50-60% or better of
your time is going to be hands-on...
4. Do you know your IGPS.... if not.... what was the point of going so
quickly again? These topics make or break a CCIE Candidate. You either own
them or you don't.
Remember the class is there to round you out. Learn the finess details that
otherwise might slip by even a well-prepared candidate.
5. Again - Know before you go...
If there is anyone who would like to add please be my guest.
Remember one of the first Disclaimers you will here in any class kinda goes
like this:
This bootcamp will not do the work for you. It is usually meant to be a
finishing school. Not a starting school.
Narbik may be the exception - since he says come now... learn the
fundamentals... then.... don't go to the lab... come back in 6+ months and
try the class again after you've had time to practice at the expert level.
IE provides a good foundation and solid base as well.
However, one should know how to configure things before making the jump in
any event.
IMHO
Darby Weaver
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Scott Morris <
smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> You kind of lose perspective (IMHO) if you only attend a snippet. Because
> you perhaps lose some of the background or previous humor about whatever
> was
> being discussed.
>
> I suppose do whatever makes sense to you, but >I< would try to look at the
> whole picture instead of looking at snippets and expecting a worthwhile
> comparison. *shrug*
>
> Scott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Narbik Kocharians
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:16 AM
> To: Darby Weaver
> Cc: Nick; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: UK Boot Camp
>
> I think i like that idea, you should audit Anthony's class and talk to
> students and do the same with my class and pick the one you like. That is
> the best way. Some times you click with a person and like the way he/she
> teaches the class. But i would recommend going there the third or the forth
> day so you can get a true sense of what is happening. Just a
> recommendation.
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > No company. I'm not advertising.
> >
> > Just an FYI - :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Nick <ccieaz@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Darby,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the information, and that is a good price. But my lab date
> is
> > > 5th May, so was looking for a date before then.
> > >
> > > BTW, what company do you work for, I dont see a signature?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > 2009/3/13 Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Narbik is in Milton Keynes very soon. Details soon - not sure exactly
> > >> when.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> May, which I will do tomorrow daytime. The quick details are the
> course
> > >> will be running in Milton Keynes on the the 18th - 23rd May. I have
> > >> negotiated the rate down to #1650 inc VAT which is a great price for
> an
> > >> excellent course.
> > >>
> > >> I will post up all of the details tomorrow about the course, the
> > location,
> > >> the venue and how to book (through my company).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Nick <ccieaz@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>> Does anyone have any suggestions of a UK based boot camp this which
> > takes
> > >>> place before May?
> > >>>
> > >>> I am looking for a 5 or 6 day hopefully in London somewhere.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also I am interested in a boot camp that is not focused purely on
> > >>> information from a deck of slides!
> > >>>
> > >>> Any recommendations will be great.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> Nick
> > >>>
> > >>>
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