From: Tony Schaffran \(GS\) (groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com)
Date: Sat Feb 21 2009 - 14:33:59 ARST
My deepest and most sincere apologies to the CCIE community.
I honestly had no clue that CCIECERT was considered an NDA violator on this
list.
This is no excuse, but I have been out of the Groupstudy loop for a while.
CCIECERT had contacted me directly a few months back and asked if
CCOnlineLabs.com would start supporting their workbooks. I took a quick
look at their web site and did not see anything out of the ordinary. Just
because they say REAL ccie labs on their web site, does not mean much more
than a marketing ploy. Has anybody seen their workbook labs? They are no
more real than IP Expert or Internetwork Expert workbook labs from what I
have seen.
Effective immediately, we are pulling support for CCIECERT labs until I can
clear this up with them and find definitive proof one way or the other. We
will still continue to support the well known labs to this list such as
Internetwork Expert, IP Expert, 360 Program, Narbik Kocharians (Micronics),
Netmetric, ccbootcamp, netmasterclass, and other groupstudy approved
vendors.
PLEASE***PLEASE***PLEASE if you have a comment regarding this, email me
directly and not the group. I do not wish to clutter the list with this. I
just wanted to make my intentions known.
Regards,
Tony Schaffran
Sr. Network Consultant
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
www.cconlinelabs.com
Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Darby Weaver
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:45 AM
To: Ravi Singh
Cc: Narbik Kocharians; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; Rick Tyrell;
joe_astorino@comcast.net; khurram noor; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Rackrental info required
The problem is an ethical question - Who supports vendors who support
violators of the NDA...
And who supports their own labs.
Proctor Labs and InternetworkExpert Support their own materials.
Some rack providers are vendor neutral.
Some support known violators of Cisco CCIE Lab NDA Policy.
Who wants to risk being banned for life from the Mickey Mouse club?
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Ravi Singh <way2ccie@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Tony might not be able to say it clearly but as a customer I can ;-) .
>
> cconlinelabs is what I had settled on when trying to find out a rack
rental
> which scores on almost all the points. I have had an excellent service
from
> them and the pricing is very nominal. There certainly are others which are
> cheap but the service they provide is also the same level.
> Proctor Labs is good but if I am not mistaken, they are the recommended
> providers for IPexpert's products only. I didn't have one so no experience
> with them yet.
>
> Just my 2 cents .
>
> Ravi
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > hahahahahaha
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Tony Schaffran (GS) <
> > groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
> >
> > > There are many rack rental companies out there with as good if not
> better
> > > service at equal to or much cheaper prices.
> > >
> > > Be sure to shop around.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony Schaffran
> > > Sr. Network Consultant
> > > CCIE #11071
> > > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Narbik Kocharians
> > > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:41 PM
> > > To: Rick Tyrell
> > > Cc: joe_astorino@comcast.net; khurram noor; Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Re: Rackrental info required
> > >
> > > You can't go wrong with them.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Rick Tyrell <rtyrell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I will have to agree, I purchased an 10 sessions from proctor labs
> and
> > > they
> > > > did not disappoint. It was a good value. I also used Putty
> Connection
> > > > Manager and everything worked out well.
> > > >
> > > > http://proctorlabs.com/
> > > >
> > > > http://puttycm.free.fr/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Rick
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 8:02 AM, <joe_astorino@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Khurram,
> > > > >
> > > > > A good bet at this particular time would be proctor labs. You
can't
> > > beat
> > > > > FREE :) Right now they are doing 2 free rack rentals and a full
> > graded
> > > > mock
> > > > > lab.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Joe
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "khurram noor" <smartcapricon82@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:42:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
> > Eastern
> > > > > Subject: Rackrental info required
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello everyone.
> > > > > I am looking forward for some hands on over Rack rentals. I am bit
> > > > confused
> > > > > which ones are offerring more hours on lower prices like in form
of
> > > > > discount
> > > > > offers. I need around 15 to 20 hours for practicing. Can anyone
> > suggest
> > > > > which one is better?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Khurram Noor
> > > > > CCIP, CCNA
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Narbik Kocharians
> > > CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > > www.MicronicsTraining.com <http://www.micronicstraining.com/> <
> http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
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> http://www.net-workbooks.com/>
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