From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Feb 16 2009 - 11:20:18 ARST
O NO,
It is as a matter of fact what i hear is very different, its a good chunk of
your test. But NOT a biggie.
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 9:30 PM, vinny <vinny@foxmail.com> wrote:
> From what I've heard, the open-ended questions are not counted towards the
> 100 point of the LAB exam.
> It's a seperate test with seperate time and points. Cisco has been testing
> this exam format in Beijing since last year
> in the form of video conferencing with cisco Engineers in the States and
> answer the questions face to face.
>
>
> 2009-02-16
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> vinny
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> 7"<~HK#: Scott M Vermillion
> 7"KMJ1<d#: 2009-02-16 02:54:52
> JU<~HK#: 'Darby Weaver'; 'Cisco certification'
> 3-KM#:
> VwLb#: RE: Open-Ended Lab Questions - All or Nothing?
>
> At least they're being consistent! CCIE lab grading has always been "all
> or
> nothing." Precisely why we're not approaching the 250,000th number. While
> I do shudder at the thought of failing the SP lab before my first cup of
> coffee is down, it is pretty cool to think I could bag 21 points in under
> 30
> minutes. I don't care how well you know your stuff, that isn't something
> you can accomplish on the CLI. So then you've got 7.5 hrs to come up with
> just 59 more points. Interesting...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Darby Weaver
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:53 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: Open-Ended Lab Questions - All or Nothing?
>
> Taken from CCIEPursuit's Blog
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> Open-Ended Question Grading: All or Nothing
> Filed under: Cisco, Cisco Certification cciepursuit @ 3:28 pm
> Tags: CCIE, CCIE Lab, Certification, Cisco, Cisco Certification
>
> In a discussion on the Cisco Networking Professionals Connection a
> candidate
> recently failed his lab. He received a 0% grade on the new "open-ended
> question" portion of the lab even though he was sure that he got at least 2
> of the 4 questions correct. If he got two of the four questions correct
> then
> he should have received a 50% mark in that category, right? Well, it turns
> out that this is NOT the case:
>
> Replied by: lohaver - Marketing Programs Manager, CISCO SYSTEMS - Feb 10,
> 2009, 4:30pm PST
>
> Hello Nuno,
>
> I work on the CCIE team. The short answer section is graded on an "all or
> nothing" basis. If you answer the minimum number correct you will get 100%.
> If you don't achieve the minimum, your score shows as 0%. It is indeed
> possible that you answered two questions correctly.
>
> Lora O'Haver
> Learning @Cisco
>
> What the [censored]??? Honestly, WHAT THE [censored]?!?!? What is the
> "minimum number correct"? I would have to assume that in this case it's
> three. Lora states that he could have correctly answered two and still not
> passed the section. If it were four then she would (well, 'should') have
> said that you need to answer all of the questions correctly. This "minimum
> number" gets more interesting in that some candidates have received 4
> questions while others have received 5 questions.
>
> This gets even more interesting. From the responses on this thread it looks
> like the questions are worth a total of 21 points and the remainder of the
> lab is worth 79 points. That means that you need to pass the question
> portion of the lab in order to pass the entire lab as the passing grade is
> 80 points and the most that you can score on the lab portion is 79 points.
>
> I've fully supported the addition of the questions to the lab, but this new
> scoring "revelation" pisses me off. IF the questions are worth 21 points
> towards your total score and they are graded on an "all or nothing" method
> based on meeting some undisclosed "minimum number of correct responses"
> then
> this is more than just a minor addition to the lab and Cisco really owes it
> to the candidates forking over $1400 to explain this better. This "all or
> nothing" scoring is especially important for candidates to be aware of
> because if they aren't aware of it, then they may be likely to request a
> reread of their exam. If you get a 0% on a section that you are sure that
> you had at least half of the questions correct, then you're most likely
> going to assume that the lab was graded incorrectly and request a reread
> ($250).
>
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