From: Jared Scrivener (jscrivener@ipexpert.com)
Date: Sat Jan 31 2009 - 18:37:42 ARST
I wouldn't write anything off entirely, Nick, but you should focus your
efforts on the most integral topics.
However when trying to cram for an exam you do need to focus on the
likelihoods of any particular question. So with NAT-PT just remember where
the configuration example is in the documentation and then look it up if you
need to.
I've heard too many stories of people skipping entire topics in their
studies and then failing labs because of it - personally I try to configure
everything at least once, but if I think something is less critical I then
remember where it is on the documentation and remember commands from the
vendor workbooks to anchor the keywords in my mind.
Cheers,
Jared Scrivener CCIE3 #16983 (R&S, Security, SP), CISSP
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Nick
Matthews
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 3:30 PM
To: Andy Hogard
Cc: Darby Weaver; Anthony Sequeira; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: how much of ipv6 to expect?!
Personally, I'm sort of writing off NAT-PT completely.
Largely because the RFC for it was deprecated -
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4966
As well as lack of IOS support with it in CEF - CSCsh63881 (alternate
pinging with CEF turned on). Here's to hoping that they wouldn't put
a topic in the exam that has a fairly significant bug that exists in
nearly all of 12.4 mainline.
I've configured it a few times but I'm not planning on looking at it
very much, for what it's worth.
-nick
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Andy Hogard <andyhogard@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wow!! Thats kewl ya, thanks Darby ..it was interesting to read your
summary.
>
>
> Regards,
> Andy.
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > Hey guys - I'd say you can't go too far off course with IE's expanded
> > blueprint. It may seem like a lot but if you complete it, you'll be
well
> > prepared for the lab and mostly anything that can be thrown at you for
IPv6.
> >
> > The things I tend to worry about the most for IPv6 are:
> >
> > 1. Enable IPv6
> >
> > 2. Interface configurations - enable on the interface, configure the
> > interface.
> >
> > 3. Enable the protocol (unless I already enabled it on the interface) -
I
> > still do in global - I'm slow like that.
> >
> > 4. Check the config.
> >
> > 5. If frame - check for link-local.
> >
> > 6. If OSPF and Loopback - I make sure I have read the requirements
again.
> >
> > 7. Ping ipv6 and ensure everything is pingable.
> >
> > 8. Split-horizon in IPv6 works like IPv4 - don't forget when and where
to
> > use it if needed.
> >
> > 9. Debugs. - I don't usually need this one - but I don't forget it's
there
> > either.
> >
> > 10. Show ipv6 route
> >
> > 11. Look for the need or requirements for tunneling - if so which
tunneling
> > is required?
> >
> > 12. Verify everything.
> >
> > 13. Ask myself - did I do everything they asked me to do the way they
asked
> > me to do it?
> >
> > 14. Take home < 10 points and call it a day.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/29/09, Andy Hogard <andyhogard@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, today is my second day for ipv6 ..4 more days to go, let me see
how
> >> far
> >> I can get. I would have indepth focus on the expanded list through my
prep
> >> and will yet go through some more of ipv6 before I get sick of it. And
the
> >> fact is that I am really comffie with it, so no probs there ..only time
> >> constraint. Just need to work my way slowly and steadly.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your responses ..my virtual mentors.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >> PS: Even with bgp, I went up all out to complete the entire ccip bgp
paper
> >> ..and nailed the exam on 31st dec (geek that I am, gave me a reason to
> >> party
> >> hard in evening) ..is there a paper on ipv6 as well?!
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Anthony Sequeira <
> >> asequeira@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yes - the Expanded Blueprint can be viewed as a list of WHAT I BETTER
> >> KNOW.
> >> > Topics that do not appear there should certainly be studied if
possible.
> >> > After all, Cisco does have an awful big disclaimer in their official
> >> > blueprint regarding they have the right to test you on absolutely
> >> anything
> >> > the IOS code can perform. :-)
> >> > Now - to help you rest at ease a bit regarding IPv6, consider the
exam
> >> > scoring.
> >> >
> >> > It is very unrealistic at this point for Cisco to present you with a
lab
> >> > exam that has the following point breakdown:
> >> >
> >> > Layer 2 - 18
> >> > IPv4 IGP - 22
> >> > IPv6 - 20
> >> >
> >> > That only leaves 40 points for everything else on the blueprint!
> >> >
> >> > Keep up the hard work Andy, and remember, how do you eat an elephant?
> >> One
> >> > bite at a time!
> >> >
> >> > I apologize in advance to all PETA members of this group. :-)
> >> >
> >> > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> >> > Senior CCIE Instructor
> >> >
> >> > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Andy Hogard wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Yes sir,
> >> >
> >> > I am sorry, I just seem to be overwhelmed with the scope of ipv6. And
> >> > actuall was just going through some books and documentation to
discover
> >> > ..qos and multicast over ipv6. :D
> >> >
> >> > Actually, its like all the protocols that are in ipv4 are with ipv6
ya
> >> > ..then there is redistribution of these protocols ..and the caveats
of
> >> it as
> >> > well. Phew!
> >> >
> >> > Anyways, I will focus on the IE ..expanded blueprint and cover some
> >> bascis
> >> > of the others stuff that is not included. Seems to be a safer bet
that
> >> ways
> >> > ..what say?!
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Andy.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Anthony Sequeira <
> >> > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Maurillio (sp?), head of the R/S track, held a CCIE discussion not
too
> >> >> long ago and specifically indicated that multi protocol BGP for IPv6
> >> and
> >> >> IPv6 EIGRP were out of scope for the current blueprint.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would expect the scope of IPv6 to expand dramatically with the
next
> >> >> blueprint revision.
> >> >>
> >> >> You will notice that IPv6 tunneling is in my Expanded Blueprint and
I
> >> do
> >> >> believe it is fair game for the exam.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> >> >> Senior CCIE Instructor
> >> >>
> >> >> asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> >> >>
> >> >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >> >> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
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> >>
> >> >> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> >> >> Outside US: 775-826-4344
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Andy Hogard wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hmm,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This is what the cisco's official blueprint has to say "IPv6:
> >> Addressing,
> >> >>> RIPng, OSPFv3"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And then there is the IE's expanded blueprint, which claims the
> >> following
> >> >>> topics "
> >> >>>
> >> >>> D. IPv6
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I. Introduction to IPv6
> >> >>> II. IPv6 Addressing
> >> >>> III. IPv6 Tunneling
> >> >>> IV. RIP for IPv6
> >> >>>
> >> >>> a. Enabling IPv6 RIP
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I. Over broadcast
> >> >>> II. Over NBMA
> >> >>>
> >> >>> b. Split Horizon
> >> >>> c. Customizing IPv6 RIP
> >> >>> d. Redistributing Routes into an IPv6 RIP routing process
> >> >>> e. Configuring Tags
> >> >>> f. Filtering IPv6 RIP updates
> >> >>>
> >> >>> V. OSPF for IPv6
> >> >>>
> >> >>> a. Enabling OSPF on an interface
> >> >>> b. Defining an OSPF IPv6 area range
> >> >>> c. Authentication on an Interface
> >> >>> d. Authentication in an OSPF area
> >> >>>
> >> >>> V. Configuring NBMA interfaces
> >> >>> VI. IPv6 ICMP"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Which is all fine, but then there is a hell lot more to ipv6 in
real,
> >> ya
> >> >>> ...So how much of it should a ccie candidate expect?! Like what
bout
> >> >>> eigrp
> >> >>> and lot of other things like tunnels, nat-pt ..et all. Man this
topic
> >> is
> >> >>> getting vast as well, looks like I will take atelast one week to do
> >> all
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> it. If you have any suggestions do let me know, else I am already
on
> >> my
> >> >>> way
> >> >>> ....to being that nerd yet again.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>> Andy.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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