From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Jan 29 2009 - 03:52:33 ARST
Mate,
People like you can use this forum to find out which vendor is recommended
by most of the people. What is wrong with that?
In this case i am NOT even one of the vendors that offer that kinda training
YET, because they are talking security and they are stating their opinion
about the security classes offered by IPexpert and Internetwork expert. This
is very helpful for people that are going to spend their money, wouldn't you
like to know which vendor is the better one when you are ready to spend your
money????????? I bet you would.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Brandon Carroll <
brandon.j.carroll@gmail.com> wrote:
> Then unsubscribe from the list!!!!
>
> Brandon
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Michael Todd <michaeldtodd@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> PLEASE DON'T COPY ME ON YOUR EMAILS ANYMORE...
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Brandon Carroll wrote:
>>
>> Personally I have both Internetwork Expert and IPexpert CCIE Security
>>> Products. The are both good but IPexperts is more extensive when it comes
>>> to Mock Labs. Internetwork Expert has more "mini labs" that are broken up
>>> into a big book (Volume 1) with a ton of topologies. The different
>>> topologies are frustrating as you may only take 5 minutes to configure 1
>>> minilab and have to wipe it for the next minilabs topology.
>>>
>>> Internetwork Expert made an announcement that they were refreshing
>>> material. So far they have focused on Routing and Switching while Security
>>> has been neglected whereas IPexpert has actually started releasing labs for
>>> the new blueprint.
>>>
>>> IPexpert is much more active in the online community, Facebook, Online
>>> Study List, Twitter, and more, whereas Internetwork Expert is a little more
>>> quiet in that arena. I have sent emails to Internetwork Expert only to
>>> either wait a few days or to never get a reply. I have emailed IPexpert and
>>> within a few minutes either had an email or a phone call from them.
>>>
>>> They are both good for the prep, but I have to say that IPexpert is MUCH
>>> more attentive to their clients.
>>>
>>> You don't have to take my word for it though. However I'm sure you will
>>> see a noticeable difference. If you go with both.
>>>
>>>
>>> Brandon Carroll
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2009, at 8:23 AM, testing testing123 wrote:
>>>
>>> so when who's security materials should i invest in ? who is known
>>>> for their security materials ? who does security the best ?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>>> Of Felix Nkansah
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:22 AM
>>>> To: Ruhann
>>>> Cc: Terry Vinson; Cisco certification
>>>> Subject: Re: Bootcamps and Vendors
>>>>
>>>> Also, by saying "InternetworkExperts ... make great products", I
>>>> believe he was referring to their product offerings for the R&S track.
>>>> Their E2E package for R&S is a must-have for every candidate, if you
>>>> ask me.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, it's difficult to say same about their workbooks for the
>>>> Security and SP tracks. I wish they could invest some more time making
>>>> those workbooks more student-friendly, like the R&S equivalent.
>>>>
>>>> Agreeably, the ROI on the workbooks for Security and SP wouldn't be as
>>>> high as they could expect when compared to R&S, but the quality of the
>>>> present offering still detracts from their good works and abilities.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 pesewas!
>>>>
>>>> Felix
>>>> r&s, security
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Ruhann <groupstudy@ru.co.za> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think you meant to say "You can't go wrong with any of these guys!"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Terry Vinson
>>>>> <consultant@tnclimited.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's sad but I spent forever debating whether or not to respond to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>> post
>>>>>
>>>>>> about the boot camp question. Finally I did after someone else
>>>>>> mentioned Narbik I did. I'm a Internetworking End-to-End Self paced
>>>>>> customer.
>>>>>> There's been times I've had major difficulties with technologies
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've
>>>>>
>>>>>> gotten help from a number of people. Scott you really helped me a
>>>>>> few months ago when I was having issues with the mock labs. You
>>>>>> also told me
>>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>> should get some one-on-one help. I decided to take a bootcamp:
>>>>>> location, timing and money indicated that Narbik's class in
>>>>>> Columbia, MD (5 hours
>>>>>>
>>>>> from
>>>>>
>>>>>> where I live was the best option). To be honest I camped out rather
>>>>>>
>>>>> than
>>>>>
>>>>>> get a hotel (to reduce costs). It was great! I learned alot that I
>>>>>>
>>>>> didn't
>>>>>
>>>>>> know and realized I didn't know much about some the stuff I thought
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>> knew.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was interesting that two or three times during the course Narbik
>>>>>> mentioned other vendors. He said, "Internetworkexpert and Ipexpert
>>>>>> make great products, especially the labs." He mentioned later that,
>>>>>> "You can
>>>>>>
>>>>> go
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrong with any of these guys!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Besides Narbik's not tall enough to be Obi-won! He's more like Yoda
>>>>>> "...do or do not. There is no try!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Terry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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