From: Pavel Bykov (slidersv@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Jan 20 2009 - 08:57:31 ARST
Lol! It almost seems like:
"Are you CCNP Certified? Great! Design CCIE Certification!"
The experience and other requirements seem adequate.
There are complicated tasks that you have to solve in large environments
that go beyond CCIE (a lot are not even solvable with any Cisco technology)
But I trust that Cisco does thorough check on people before they are
admitted into SME circle
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>wrote:
> Let Cisco decide:
> ==================================
>
>
> *Learning@Cisco* *Certification Design Advisory Team*
>
> *Participate in the Development of Cisco Career Certifications*
> In order to maintain the relevance and quality of our certification exams,
> Cisco routinely asks external Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) to participate
> in job task analysis, domain identification and exam development. SMEs are
> crucial to the process and help ensure Cisco Career Certifications remain
> among the most highly regarded in the industry.
>
> If you are interested in being part of a Cisco Certification Design
> Advisory
> Team, please review the following information, *submit the application
> profile information below and a recent resume in email to
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> 20,
> 2008.
>
> *Networking Engineer Job Task Analysis Workshop*
> *June 16-20, in Boxborough, Massachusetts (outside Boston)*
> *SEEKING: Engineers who plan, design, implement, operate, monitor and
> troubleshoot multi-site, multi-protocol, multi-service (data, voice, video,
> wireless) networks *
>
> - Must work in environment featuring large number of networking devices
> - Job role can be IT staff, field, or managerial
> - Experience in specifying tasks that others accomplish
>
> *SMEs will be asked to:*
>
> - Attend a five-day job task analysis workshop at a Cisco office in *
> Boxborough**, Mass. (outside of Boston)*. For those from out of the
> area, air travel and lodging to attend the workshop will be reimbursed up
> to
> $4000 USD.
> - Participate with SME peers and Cisco staff in writing and reviewing
> documentation pertaining to the domain skills required of Cisco Certified
> Internetwork Experts (CCIE)s in Routing and Switching. SMEs need to be
> able
> to work independently and in small groups. SMEs must have strong writing
> skills and should be able to articulate thoughts in writing and verbally.
>
> *SMEs will receive (pending full level of participation):*
>
> - All information and materials required to complete the given tasks.
> - Continental breakfast, lunch, snacks and beverages during meeting
> days. Dietary restrictions will be accommodated.
> - Recognition for you and your organization (if provided) on Cisco
> certification community sites.
> - A stipend of $300 USD per day.
> - A voucher (coupon) to take one Cisco certification exam at any Pearson
> VUE testing facility, free of charge. (Offer excludes lab exams taken at
> Cisco facilities.).
> - Priority placement (if desired) in beta test of new CCNP level training
> course, free of charge.
> - A certificate of participation.
> - A Cisco logo golf shirt.
>
> *SME Requirements:*
>
> - Two years networking experience and CCNP certified.
> - Strong communication and English skills.
> - Commitment to participate fully for five 8-hour days.
> - Non-disclosure agreement (NDA) signed prior to participation.
> - Ability to independently obtain visa and any necessary authorization
> for travel.
> - Submit an updated resume that highlights your experience in:
> -
> - Troubleshooting tier 2+ networking issues and resolving escalations
> - Configuring security solutions or "hardening" the network
> - Identification and mitigation of network performance issues
>
> NOTE: SMEs outside the U.S. are encouraged to apply if a visa can be
> obtained.
>
> *Application Profile Information
> *Completion of the information below is required along with a current
> resume
> to be considered for this workshop.
>
> - First Name
> - Last Name
> - Email Address
> - Certification Held (include number if applicable)
> - Title
> - Company Name
> - Industry
> - Approximate Size of IT Staff
> - Address
> - City
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> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Unless you are a CCNA with a lot influence with a lot of CCIE's and those
> > aspiring to be.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Scott Morris <
> > smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Tell ya what... I'll get a shirt printed up with ALL of the new logos
> >> that I would be allowed to use, and wear it to a Cisco function just to
> see
> >> how many people tell me what a dork I look like. Then I'll change into
> a
> >> shirt with the "old" logo on there and see what the reaction happens to
> be.
> >>
> >> Some people may still tell me I'm a dork and I'm ok with that... but it
> >> won't be nearly as many.
> >>
> >> And to vote, one should obtain the certification. No sense in having a
> >> CCNA tell me what's good for the CCIE program, is there?
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nortic @hackermail.com [mailto:nortic@hackermail.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:49 AM
> >> To: Groupstudy @ CrespoNetworks; Scott Morris
> >> Cc: 'Marko Milivojevic'; swm@emanon.com; 'Scott M Vermillion'; 'Yandy
> >> Ramirez'; 'Andrew Larkins'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
> >>
> >> The old one looks like it was designed almost 20 years ago, ooh wait, it
> >> was! The new logo's look much better and the "CCNP - Service Provider"
> move
> >> is a good one. It shows Cisco is serious about branding their
> >> certifications. That said some bad moves have been made as well e.g the
> CCDE
> >> number format, after that the CCDE dropped from a 9/10 to a 4/10 on my
> >> awesometer.
> >>
> >> For every petition to keep the old logo there will be a petition to keep
> >> the new ones. I am glad the new logo designs favor multiple IE's as I
> prefer
> >> to have a logo for each CCIE than to have one for all.
> >>
> >> Is change really that hard?
> >>
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Groupstudy @ CrespoNetworks" <groupstudy@cresponet.com>
> >> > To: "Scott Morris" <smorris@internetworkexpert.com>
> >> > Cc: "'Marko Milivojevic'" <markom@markom.info>, swm@emanon.com,
> "'Scott
> >> M Vermillion'" <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>, "'Yandy Ramirez'" <
> >> yandyr@gmail.com>, "'Andrew Larkins'" <Andrew.Larkins@bytes.co.za>,
> >> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> > Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
> >> > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:09:33 -0500
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I agree... Where do sign up? We should start a online petition or
> >> > something. The CCIE logo absolutely should be different from the rest
> >> > of their cert's. The old one is more than adequate. If they want to
> >> > update it, then they should just introduce a cool colored version of
> the
> >> > B/W one. That way everything is preserved:
> >> >
> >> > Maintain Brand Recognition
> >> > Ten Year Achievement
> >> > Multiple Track Signification
> >> > Different that the lower certs
> >> > Updated logo (colored in addition to B/W) <-- for Cisco
> >> >
> >> > See... Everyone happy... (except, of course, for people that like
> the
> >> > new logo...)
> >> >
> >> > J
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Scott Morris wrote:
> >> > > They likely are. Or someone will forward it on. Whether it
> >> > > makes a difference or not is another story.
> >> > >
> >> > > Or whether it gets forwarded high enough up the chain, I'm not
> >> > > sure. There are a lot of things that can be changed in the world
> >> > > with grassroots movements... perhaps this could be one of them?
> >> > > :)
> >> > >
> >> > > Scott
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: markom@gmail.com [mailto:markom@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> >> > > Marko Milivojevic
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:01 PM
> >> > > To: swm@emanon.com
> >> > > Cc: Scott Morris; Scott M Vermillion; Yandy Ramirez; Andrew
> >> > > Larkins; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> > > Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 23:47, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Just promise me you won't open up a cert support ticket about it!
> :)
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > Ah, you see! That's a bloody good idea! If I do that, the whole new
> >> > > thing may collapse and they may be forced to roll back.
> >> > >
> >> > > Btw. new logos, suck on so many levels. Did you notice that there is
> >> > > no vector version any longer? We're stuck with 3 sizes, which look
> >> > > disgusting at best when printed out. Not to mention that there is no
> >> > > official B&W version.
> >> > >
> >> > > What a sloppy work, I can't believe it. What the hell is wrong with
> >> > > what once was the greatest certification program? Sure, I hold some
> >> > > grudge about failing CCDE, but really, this is nonsense.
> >> > >
> >> > > And yeah, I hope they are reading.
> >> > >
> >> > >
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