From: paul cosgrove (paul.cosgrove@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jan 19 2009 - 18:36:28 ARST
Hi Darth,
Maybe over christmas they had a change of heart, and being full of joy in
this new year have now decided to make amends for their old business
practices. It doesn't sound all that likely to me mind you, so I hope you
warn your friend accordingly.
No doubt anyone who voices concerns, complaints or awkward questions
decreases their perceived chance of later being selected into 360. So the
company can operate for a little longer and keep the cheques rolling in.
I've copied this email to the man who wrote the review, as he may perhaps be
interested in adding an update to inform other potential candidates.
Paul.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:23 PM, darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>wrote:
> Thanks, someone I know signed up for this, and the confirmation mentioned
> something to the effect that top candidates may be selected into the cisco
> ccie 360 program. I wonder how these guys can continue to scam. Seems like
> they should be locked up in prison.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:14 AM, paul cosgrove <paul.cosgrove@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Darth,
>>
>> The MX record for that domain points to exch1.mx.techprosgroup.com.
>> "Tech Pros Group" is another of their trading names, but perhaps one which
>> has outlived its usefulness.
>>
>> You can read a less than glowing review by one of their past students who
>> applied for a LAN/WAN internship scheme they advertised:-
>> http://techprosgroupirvineca.googlepages.com/
>>
>> One particularly enlightening paragraph is:*
>> "New Contracts:*
>>
>> **After you have paid your initial fees and started the program, you will
>> be asked to sign certain legal documents. If you read these documents
>> carefully, they mention nothing about getting an internship. Basically
>> they say "you do the training you owe Tech Pros Group $25,000"."
>>
>> The past student also links to the Los Angeles Better Business Bureau, who
>> have assigned this company an F rating:-
>>
>> "F We strongly question the company's reliability for reasons such as
>> that they have failed to respond to complaints, their advertising is grossly
>> misleading, they are not in compliance with the law's licensing or
>> registration requirements, their complaints contain especially serious
>> allegations, or the company's industry is known for its fraudulent business
>> practices.
>> http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=13218660
>>
>> There is other information about legal cases, etc. but I expect you can
>> guess as to the content.
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:54 PM, josh lauer <jslauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> interesting,
>>>
>>> but I would have to agree. It's a little light on facts, especially the
>>> fact I've never heard of them and they have "success" stories. Figure if
>>> they had success stories we would see some of them around here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> CCIE 16024
>>> CCNA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIP, CCSP, MCSE, RHCE, CEH
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Tony Schaffran (GS)" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:41 PM
>>> To: "'darth router'" <darklordrouter@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> >
>>> Subject: RE: Is this training offer a scam?
>>>
>>>
>>> Anything like that where it requires you to make payment is a scam.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony Schaffran
>>>> Sr. Network Consultant
>>>> CCIE #11071
>>>> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
>>>> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>>>>
>>>> www.cconlinelabs.com
>>>> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> darth router
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 10:35 AM
>>>> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>> Subject: Is this training offer a scam?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.lanwanprofessional.com/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.lanwanprofessional.net/pre_application_grant.php
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any knowledge of this? On receipt of acceptance they give
>>>> mention of their program possibly selecting candidates into the cisco
>>>> 360
>>>> program (beta I guess?) I'm trying to figure out if this is legit, as
>>>> they
>>>> don't seem to be affiliated with cisco.
>>>>
>>>>
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