From: Brad Ellis (brad@ccbootcamp.com)
Date: Mon Jan 19 2009 - 18:08:08 ARST
Scott, you'll always be a dork no matter what shirt you put on. You
should make up a special "Dork" logo. Then you can change it a few weeks
later and watch people waste their time complaining that they don't like
the new logo.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:04 PM
To: 'nortic @hackermail.com'; 'Groupstudy @ CrespoNetworks'
Cc: 'Marko Milivojevic'; swm@emanon.com; 'Scott M Vermillion'; 'Yandy
Ramirez'; 'Andrew Larkins'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: New CCIE logo
Tell ya what... I'll get a shirt printed up with ALL of the new logos
that I would be allowed to use, and wear it to a Cisco function just to
see how many people tell me what a dork I look like. Then I'll change
into a shirt with the "old" logo on there and see what the reaction
happens to be.
Some people may still tell me I'm a dork and I'm ok with that... but it
won't be nearly as many.
And to vote, one should obtain the certification. No sense in having a
CCNA tell me what's good for the CCIE program, is there?
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nortic @hackermail.com [mailto:nortic@hackermail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:49 AM
To: Groupstudy @ CrespoNetworks; Scott Morris
Cc: 'Marko Milivojevic'; swm@emanon.com; 'Scott M Vermillion'; 'Yandy
Ramirez'; 'Andrew Larkins'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
The old one looks like it was designed almost 20 years ago, ooh wait, it
was! The new logo's look much better and the "CCNP - Service Provider"
move is a good one. It shows Cisco is serious about branding their
certifications. That said some bad moves have been made as well e.g the
CCDE number format, after that the CCDE dropped from a 9/10 to a 4/10 on
my awesometer.
For every petition to keep the old logo there will be a petition to keep
the new ones. I am glad the new logo designs favor multiple IE's as I
prefer to have a logo for each CCIE than to have one for all.
Is change really that hard?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Groupstudy @ CrespoNetworks" <groupstudy@cresponet.com>
> To: "Scott Morris" <smorris@internetworkexpert.com>
> Cc: "'Marko Milivojevic'" <markom@markom.info>, swm@emanon.com,
"'Scott M Vermillion'" <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>, "'Yandy Ramirez'"
<yandyr@gmail.com>, "'Andrew Larkins'" <Andrew.Larkins@bytes.co.za>,
ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:09:33 -0500
>
>
> I agree... Where do sign up? We should start a online petition or
> something. The CCIE logo absolutely should be different from the rest
> of their cert's. The old one is more than adequate. If they want to
> update it, then they should just introduce a cool colored version of
the
> B/W one. That way everything is preserved:
>
> Maintain Brand Recognition
> Ten Year Achievement
> Multiple Track Signification
> Different that the lower certs
> Updated logo (colored in addition to B/W) <-- for Cisco
>
> See... Everyone happy... (except, of course, for people that like
the
> new logo...)
>
> J
>
>
>
> Scott Morris wrote:
> > They likely are. Or someone will forward it on. Whether it
> > makes a difference or not is another story.
> >
> > Or whether it gets forwarded high enough up the chain, I'm not
> > sure. There are a lot of things that can be changed in the world
> > with grassroots movements... perhaps this could be one of them?
> > :)
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: markom@gmail.com [mailto:markom@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> > Marko Milivojevic
> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:01 PM
> > To: swm@emanon.com
> > Cc: Scott Morris; Scott M Vermillion; Yandy Ramirez; Andrew
> > Larkins; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 23:47, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Just promise me you won't open up a cert support ticket about it!
:)
> >>
> >
> > Ah, you see! That's a bloody good idea! If I do that, the whole new
> > thing may collapse and they may be forced to roll back.
> >
> > Btw. new logos, suck on so many levels. Did you notice that there is
> > no vector version any longer? We're stuck with 3 sizes, which look
> > disgusting at best when printed out. Not to mention that there is no
> > official B&W version.
> >
> > What a sloppy work, I can't believe it. What the hell is wrong with
> > what once was the greatest certification program? Sure, I hold some
> > grudge about failing CCDE, but really, this is nonsense.
> >
> > And yeah, I hope they are reading.
> >
> >
> > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >
> >
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