From: Marko Milivojevic (markom@markom.info)
Date: Mon Jan 19 2009 - 09:47:44 ARST
Oh sure thing, but we are not improperly using anything. Cisco is
still using the old logo on their own site. You can still download old
logo from their website. And there was no official or unofficial
communication about "stop using old logo, now". We are upset about the
new logo, we want to keep the old. Like I said, we like being CCIE's
and we care.
When Cisco says game is over, game is over. It's their own right to do
so. Until then, we are simply voicing our opinion, perfectly in
accordance to to the policies.
If I'm for some reason decertified for that, so be it.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:29, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually I answered a question on a blog tonight about where to turn in
> known cheaters and in that list one of the items for de-certifying a CCIE
> right up their with taking notes in or out of the lab was improper usage of
> the CCIE Logo.
>
> Strange enough it's consdered that bad.
>
> Think twice before using the wrong logo.
>
> Bujt if you wanted to start a petition it seems to me you all already have.
> I don't have the right to do so just yet.
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
> Darby Weaver
>
>
> On 1/19/09, Scott Morris <smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>>
>> hehheheb& Do you really think that people did NOT mention the concept of
>> keeping the old one? :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Darby Weaver [mailto:ccie.weaver@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:47 PM
>> To: Scott Morris
>> Cc: Marko Milivojevic; swm@emanon.com; Scott M Vermillion; Yandy Ramirez;
>> Andrew Larkins; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey if you really dislike the logo...
>>
>>
>>
>> Do not download it. If some 20,000 people refuse to acknowledge its
>> legitimacy then it will not last very long.
>>
>>
>>
>> To be fair to Cisco they did offer a survey offering at least two type of
>> logos. Maybe someone should have recommended keeping the old one.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, since there are so many tracks now this will serve to benifit
>> those wil specialty tracks and multiple CCIE's the most.
>>
>>
>>
>> And it will likely affect the majoroty of CCIE's in the other direction,
>> since a little bit of the halo "one logo fits all" aspect may be diminished
>> a bit. Kind of like being just an MCSE versus being an MCSE+Security or
>> MCSE+Messaging back in the day or a CNE versus a Master CNE, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't feel bad employers are already asking for a CCNA or a CCIE to fill
>> positions with. Now the logos for everyone will make this even more likely
>> since the logos kind of look alike. How's HR to know the difference, who
>> keeps track of these things anyway?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/18/09, Scott Morris <smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>>
>> They likely are. Or someone will forward it on. Whether it makes a
>> difference or not is another story.
>>
>> Or whether it gets forwarded high enough up the chain, I'm not
>> sure. There are a lot of things that can be changed in the world with
>> grassroots movements... perhaps this could be one of them? :)
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: markom@gmail.com [mailto:markom@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Marko
>> Milivojevic
>> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:01 PM
>> To: swm@emanon.com
>> Cc: Scott Morris; Scott M Vermillion; Yandy Ramirez; Andrew Larkins;
>> ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 23:47, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>> > Just promise me you won't open up a cert support ticket about it! :)
>>
>> Ah, you see! That's a bloody good idea! If I do that, the whole new
>> thing may collapse and they may be forced to roll back.
>>
>> Btw. new logos, suck on so many levels. Did you notice that there is
>> no vector version any longer? We're stuck with 3 sizes, which look
>> disgusting at best when printed out. Not to mention that there is no
>> official B&W version.
>>
>> What a sloppy work, I can't believe it. What the hell is wrong with
>> what once was the greatest certification program? Sure, I hold some
>> grudge about failing CCDE, but really, this is nonsense.
>>
>> And yeah, I hope they are reading.
>>
>>
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