From: Marko Milivojevic (markom@markom.info)
Date: Mon Jan 19 2009 - 07:49:11 ARST
I completely agree! Anyone who disagrees, should open a support case
to ask for an old logo to remain official!
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 09:36, Alexei Monastyrnyi <alexeim73@gmail.com> wrote:
> that would work probably.. shall we go for it? :-)
>
> A.
>
>
> Piyoush Sharma wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if it would make a difference if every CCIE were to open a
>> support
>> ticket asking Cisco to get rid of the new logo...
>> IMO even if 9-10k tickets open up, it should get somebody's attention....
>>
>> For some reason this has affected how I perceive the CCIE certification. I
>> am not sure if the new logo is worth all the pain, suffering and sleepless
>> nights counting configs and OSPF timers in bed.
>> Do not get me wrong, I know the value comes with knowledge and this is a
>> validation as such, however, I cannot help but ponder if Cisco has shirked
>> their moral responsibility by making a change such as this without proper
>> feedback and/or comments from the people it would affect the most. If the
>> entire community sends a message to Cisco, it would have an impact.
>> If people show up at the Networkers wearing old CCIE logos, and not new
>> ones.. every last one of them... that would send a pretty strong
>> message...
>>
>> Cisco might own the trademark, but we (particularly CCIE's..) EARN IT!!!
>>
>> Just something to think about.
>>
>> -Piyoush
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Scott Morris <
>> smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> hehhehe Do you really think that people did NOT mention the concept of
>>> keeping the old one? :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Darby Weaver [mailto:ccie.weaver@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:47 PM
>>> To: Scott Morris
>>> Cc: Marko Milivojevic; swm@emanon.com; Scott M Vermillion; Yandy Ramirez;
>>> Andrew Larkins; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey if you really dislike the logo...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do not download it. If some 20,000 people refuse to acknowledge its
>>> legitimacy then it will not last very long.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To be fair to Cisco they did offer a survey offering at least two type of
>>> logos. Maybe someone should have recommended keeping the old one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, since there are so many tracks now this will serve to benifit
>>> those
>>> wil specialty tracks and multiple CCIE's the most.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And it will likely affect the majoroty of CCIE's in the other direction,
>>> since a little bit of the halo "one logo fits all" aspect may be
>>> diminished
>>> a bit. Kind of like being just an MCSE versus being an MCSE+Security or
>>> MCSE+Messaging back in the day or a CNE versus a Master CNE, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't feel bad employers are already asking for a CCNA or a CCIE to fill
>>> positions with. Now the logos for everyone will make this even more
>>> likely
>>> since the logos kind of look alike. How's HR to know the difference, who
>>> keeps track of these things anyway?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/18/09, Scott Morris <smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> They likely are. Or someone will forward it on. Whether it makes a
>>> difference or not is another story.
>>>
>>> Or whether it gets forwarded high enough up the chain, I'm not sure.
>>> There
>>> are a lot of things that can be changed in the world with grassroots
>>> movements... perhaps this could be one of them? :)
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: markom@gmail.com [mailto:markom@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Marko
>>> Milivojevic
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:01 PM
>>> To: swm@emanon.com
>>> Cc: Scott Morris; Scott M Vermillion; Yandy Ramirez; Andrew Larkins;
>>> ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 23:47, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just promise me you won't open up a cert support ticket about it! :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, you see! That's a bloody good idea! If I do that, the whole new
>>> thing may collapse and they may be forced to roll back.
>>>
>>> Btw. new logos, suck on so many levels. Did you notice that there is
>>> no vector version any longer? We're stuck with 3 sizes, which look
>>> disgusting at best when printed out. Not to mention that there is no
>>> official B&W version.
>>>
>>> What a sloppy work, I can't believe it. What the hell is wrong with
>>> what once was the greatest certification program? Sure, I hold some
>>> grudge about failing CCDE, but really, this is nonsense.
>>>
>>> And yeah, I hope they are reading.
>>>
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