Re: Bidirectional PIM scenario

From: Hobbs (deadheadblues@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Jan 15 2009 - 03:23:26 ARST


Thanks Jonathon. What I am trying to do is find a scenario where PIM-SIM
doesn't work and BIDIR PIM fixes it. But maybe BIDIR PIM isn't a problem
solver, just a design method...

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Jonathan Greenwood II
<gwood83@gmail.com>wrote:

> I don't think bidirectional PIM is based upon the topology but more so what
> are you trying to achieve like whether or not to allow certain
> routers/switches to be able to install S,G entries from a particular source
> or to prevent unicast PIM register messages being sent to a router/switch
> from a particular source. In regards to your statement in relation to PIM
> SM this is direct from the DocCD
>
> "For packets that are forwarded downstream from the RP toward receivers,
> there are no fundamental differences between bidir-PIM and PIM-SM. Bidir-PIM
> deviates substantially from PIM-SM for traffic that is passed from sources
> upstream toward the RP. "
>
>
> http://cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipmulti/configuration/guide/imc_basic_cfg_ps6350_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html#wp1054929
>
> HTH
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Hobbs <deadheadblues@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello,
>>
>> I am trying to learn more about bidirectional PIM but no matter what type
>> of
>> lab topology I come up with, multicast works anyway. Anyone know a good
>> topology I can configure where multicast would fail unless you enable
>> bidir
>> pim?
>>
>> The topology I use right now has this (copied from doccd config guide)
>>
>> R1 (Receiver) ---- R2 ---- R3 (RP) ----- R4 ----- R5 ----- R6 (Sender)
>> |
>> |
>> R7----- R8 (Receiver)
>>
>> If you cant see the topology correctly R4 is where the split to R7
>> happens.
>> R1 and R8 are receivers
>> R3 is the RP
>> R6 is the sender.
>> All interfaces are PIM-SM, Autorp listener everywhere
>>
>> Even with this setup, R4 will accept (S,G) incoming from R5, forward it to
>> R3, then accept (*,G) on that same interface from R3 to forward it out
>> R7/R8. I always thought this could not happen. I have disabled the
>> SPT-switchover (ip pim spt-threshold infinity).
>>
>> R4#sho ip mroute 225.0.0.1 | begin \(\*
>> (*, 225.0.0.1), 00:12:10/00:03:08, RP 3.3.3.3, flags: S
>> Incoming interface: Serial1/0, RPF nbr 192.168.34.3
>> Outgoing interface list:
>> Serial1/1, Forward/Sparse, 00:12:10/00:03:08
>>
>> (192.168.56.6, 225.0.0.1), 00:00:22/00:03:21, flags: T
>> Incoming interface: Serial1/2, RPF nbr 192.168.45.5
>> Outgoing interface list:
>> Serial1/0, Forward/Sparse, 00:00:22/00:03:09, A
>> Serial1/1, Forward/Sparse, 00:00:22/00:03:08
>>
>> On R4:
>>
>> s1/0 = R3
>> s1/1 = R7
>> s1/2 = R5
>>
>> thanks,
>>
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