From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Jan 14 2009 - 19:42:05 ARST
Exactly!!!
I know when I started this stuff. I was reading a lot more than labbing
stuff. And the videos helped me learn how to explain things better and more
intelligently.
I think we all get nervous at interviews. Human nature.
But when we meet someone who can comfortably explain something on a
prefessional level we have an amazing sense of confidence in that person.
Besides what CCIE or CCIE level person does not have to explain things to
his/her peers and superiors or end users / clients.
I'm telling you I like this idea.
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Yandy Ramirez <yandyr@gmail.com> wrote:
> To me this is an awesome idea, beside weeding out the bad. just imagine all
> the confidence you'll get for job interviews later if you do well on those
> questions or felt comfortable with them. ;)
>
>
> Yandy Ramirez
> yandyr@gmail.com
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Tony Varriale <
> tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it will impact less than 10%. But, even if it doesn't, I think
>> what
>> will be more interesting is how it affects which tracks and which
>> locations.
>>
>> FYI, you used to be able to call TAC from your lab exam. :)
>>
>> tv
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Darby Weaver
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:14 PM
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and
>> Scoring
>>
>> It's about time.
>>
>> The email is no hoax and it is real.
>>
>> The open-ended questions for all tracks. - SUPER-DUPER!!!
>>
>>
>> Let's see how many CCIE's are made in February?
>>
>> My guess is the number goes down significantly. Any takers? I think I'm
>> goign to run a betting pool on this one.
>>
>> So many people took the short road. Now that road has a ver sharp fork in
>> the middle.
>>
>> Now this kills the problem of "memorization" the proctors spoke of on my
>> last trip to th magical kingdom.
>>
>> Yes it suck for those who can't speak English and take the exam (I kinda
>> wondered what happens on TAC Support calls from these CCIE's, but hey
>> that's
>> just me).
>>
>>
>> Let's face it a lot of people tried to take the short road and about like
>> 90
>> days worth of poor souls who sought to take the fast-track to CCIE based
>> on
>> whatever they believed was a real lab are now just going to fall into a
>> crevice and not be able t get their money back.
>>
>> Ouch!
>>
>> The number of 1st timers will drop during this period.
>>
>> It's kinda like what happens when the first wave has to go and dive into
>> the
>> land mines tor on the barbed wire so the rest can crawl over.
>>
>> Sucks to be one of the sacraficial lambs.
>>
>>
>> Wait...
>>
>> This means since it is verbal - it can change without notice too...
>>
>> Kinda kewl and interesting but how would we know since we are all honoring
>> the NDA anyway.
>>
>> Hah!
>>
>> Love this stuff.
>>
>> ==========================================
>>
>> Look the guys who I know who were CCIE's when they went to take their labs
>> -
>> were CCIE's whether or not they had the paper.
>>
>> Those other guys... well they had to wait a while after they passed the
>> CCIE Lab to "be" CCIE's and some may never be. Sorry it's how the cookie
>> crumbles.
>>
>>
>> ==========================================
>>
>> Now if they'll just bring back the hands-on component - betcha that would
>> break some hearts... Hah!
>>
>>
>>
>> My opinion: It's about time.
>>
>> Think of this "those gunmen" won't even be able to touch a rack if this is
>> true.
>>
>> Interesting. It's kind of like the old day where you needed "X amount of
>> Points" to get to Day-2.
>>
>>
>> Technically Cisco did give some people about 6 months to prep for this
>> kind
>> of verbal review. So it's been out there.
>>
>>
>> I just remember the recent article that said 11 times the number of CCIE's
>> from outside the USA. We only had 8 that month. Which is probably
>> consistent with other months since the program started.
>>
>> Most of the people I know of in the US tend to spend considerable amounts
>> of
>> time in prep (years) and I'm not sure this is true everywhere.
>>
>>
>> Think of this: If the number of people wanting to take a lab exam drops
>> from say 16 per day any site to like 1-2 per day, then Cisco might change
>> this program since it needs CCIE's.
>>
>>
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