From: Tony Varriale (tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com)
Date: Wed Jan 14 2009 - 15:02:34 ARST
That's a good point Scott.
IMO, if you cannot answer the questions sufficiently, there is no reason to let the "candidate" sit down and potentially add that lab book to the braindump pool.
It's not a right to sit down in front of your gear. You pay for the privilege.
This should be interesting either way.
tv
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Scott M Vermillion
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:55 AM
To: 'Howard Hooper'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and Scoring
The Q&A was a little ambiguous on this topic:
Question
Can I skip the short answer questions and go back and answer them later?
Answer
No, the short answer questions must be completed before the candidate moves on to the configuration scenarios.
Does "completed" mean "pass?" On the one hand, from a security perspective, it would be (however slightly) beneficial to the program overall to require a passing score on the verbal section in order to be allowed access to the lab scenario. This might reduce theft of lab scenarios. But practically speaking, that would be quite brutal. Essentially they would be collecting your $1400 and not even allowing you to at least build some experience with the actual lab environment. I doubt that they'd take it that far. My guess is that you can fail on the verbal section alone (why include it otherwise?) but that you won't know that until you receive your score report.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Howard Hooper
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:45 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and Scoring
Does anyone know how much of the overall score at the end of the day is
given to these questions? I may have misunderstood some of the posts but
it sounds like if you fail on the questions then you have no (or at
least a very small) chance of passing the lab?
Do you think this may turn out to be similar to the original 2-day lab
where if a candidate didn't pass the grade on the first day they were
told to not come in for the second i.e. if you don't reach a certain
score on the questions then the proctor will tell you your better off
leaving now?
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: 14 January 2009 16:27
To: 'Tony Schaffran (GS)'; 'hanan'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and
Scoring
I would discount it as one department not keeping up with the others.
:)
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Tony
Schaffran (GS)
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:31 AM
To: 'hanan'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and
Scoring
Since I do not see this on the official Cisco CCIE news web site,
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/index.html
I have to discount it as rumor.
Tony Schaffran
Sr. Network Consultant
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
hanan
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:04 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and
Scoring
Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and Scoring
Effective February 1, 2009, Cisco will introduce a new type of question
format to CCIE Routing and Switching lab exams. In addition to the live
configuration scenarios, candidates will be asked a series of four or
five
open-ended questions, drawn from a pool of questions based on the
material
covered on the lab blueprint. No new topics are being added. The exams
are
not been increased in difficulty and the well-prepared candidate should
have
no trouble answering the questions. The length of the exam will remain
eight
hours. Candidates will need to achieve a passing score on both the
open-ended questions and the lab portion in order to pass the lab and
become
certified. Other CCIE tracks will change over the next year, with exact
dates announced in advance.
Effective February 17th, 2009, candidates will also see two other
changes in
CCIE written exams. First, candidates will now be required to answer
each
question before moving on to the next question; candidates will no
longer be
allowed to skip a question and come back to it at a later time. Second,
there will be an update to the score report. The overall exam score and
the
exam passing score will now be reported as a scaled score, on a scale
from
300-1000. This change will not affect the difficulty of the current set
of
exams and will assure CCIE written exams will be consistent with Cisco's
other career certification exams.
Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
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