Re: C2600XM instead of C2800 for voice lab?

From: Nick Matthews (matthn@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Jan 10 2009 - 18:59:15 ARST


I know that CUBE is on the new blueprint. There have been leaps and bounds
in improvements in CUBE in 12.4(20)T, and I believe there's a fair chance
(especially when integrating with CUCM 7.x) that there's a good chance it
would be on the blueprint. Given - this is all speculation. The 12.4T
voice code has been improved very significantly since it's inception, and I
would guess they would use 12.4(15)T or higher. Maybe 12.4(9)T, but there
are a lot less features there.

Something to think about.

-nick

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Huan Pham <pnhuan@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Great! Thanks very much Frog. This is what I am actually looking for. For
> R&S,
> Brian M. from IE put together a good post on how to build an R&S budget
> home
> lab (from 2600 & 3640 routers), but I could not find similar post for voice
> lab from IE and IPexpert.
>
> BTW, I think we only need only one Cisco3560 switch, for both sites. The
> new
> blue print uses 3750 switches, but I guess command-wise it's not much
> different from Cisco3560, so at least I can keep one of my C3560s for my
> voice
> lab :-))
>
> Regards,
>
> Huan
>
> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: C2600XM instead of C2800 for voice lab?
> To: "Huan Pham" <pnhuan@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie@gmail.com>, "WorkerBee" <
> ciscobee@gmail.com>,
> "CCIE Lab" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 2:05 PM
>
>
> Hi Haun,
> I have updated my blog, you can have a look what I have used for my voice
> home
> lab.
> I was able to do 95% of the lab blue print.
>
> pushkarbhatkoti.wordpress.com
>
> -frog
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Huan Pham <pnhuan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Bee for the great advice. Otherwise, I would have to learn it the
> hardway in the middle of the lab preparation.
>
> --- On Tue, 12/30/08, WorkerBee <ciscobee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: WorkerBee <ciscobee@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: C2600XM instead of C2800 for voice lab?
> To: "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Huan Pham" <pnhuan@yahoo.com>, "CCIE Lab" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 3:47 PM
>
>
>
>
> The 2600xm platform uses PVDM-12 DSPs which uses different configurations
> compare to PVDM2 DSPs. It still can be configured for the normal stuffs
> like
> transcoding, MTP, Conference bridges, etc.
>
> 2600xm requires NM-HDV which supports maximum of 2 E1/T1 ports per NM
> module.
> A PSTN switch requires a minimum of 3 ports (2 for T1 and 1 for E1).
> The PSTN switch
> also needs to support CME for connecting to a ephone with various
> numbering plans for 911, int'l etc.
> Hence, you may need a large flash and memory to run CME.
>
> The cheapest PSTN switch is a Cisco 1760-V router but you need to
> comprise one of the E1 port
> as R2 digital signaling instead of PRI signaling.
>
> It can be challenging to convert a R&S pod to a Voice pod. One thing
> to take note, VWICs and DSPs
> can be really expensive.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I don't see a reason why you cant? I am waiting on an answer on this
> too
> > because i have a full blown R&S lab that i would hate to part with
> after I
> > pass R&S
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Huan Pham <pnhuan@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I think, as the worst case scenario, I could use one of my existing
> Cisco
> >> 2600XM for the PSTN and Frame-Relay switch simulation, and I will need
> 3
> >> new
> >> Cisco 2811. Any comment please.
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 12/30/08, Huan Pham <pnhuan@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Huan Pham <pnhuan@yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: C2600XM instead of C2800 for voice lab?
> >> To: "CCIE Lab" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 2:24 PM
> >>
> >> Hi GS,
> >>
> >> I have a full R&S lab of C2600XM and C3640 routers, and about to
> resell
> >> them
> >> or reused some of them for my voice lab.
> >>
> >> My initial check is that Cisco 2600XM series routers support the voice
> >> cards
> >> NM-HDV2-1T1/E1, VWIC2-2MFT-T1/E1 which are used in vendors'
> physical
> >> topologies (e.g. IE and IPexpert).
> >>
> >> However, the vendors labs all use Cisco 2811 instead of 2600XM or 3600
> >> series
> >> routers. In my experience with R&S track, Cisco 2600 or 3640
> supports
> >> almost
> >> all features and there's no need to upgrade to 2800.
> >>
> >> So my question is: Are there any voice features I can not practice
> >> with 2600XM, and upgrades to Cisco 2800s are recommended?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for your advice.
> >>
> >> Huan
> >>
> >>
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