From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Dec 28 2008 - 22:05:35 ARST
Nice summary Marko.
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom@markom.info>wrote:
> I "love" when Fortune x00 comes into discussion as a factor that needs
> to be considered. It would appear that those are the only important
> companies in the networking world, regardless of the fact that there
> are at least 20 million other companies in the world that need some
> sort of a network. If we used the same logic, world wouldn't need more
> than x00 CCIE's. Yet, somehow, we do.
>
> Same applies for network design. There are small companies that do big
> things. There are big companies that do small things. They all need
> different networks and different approaches to their way of business
> Let us not forget the first lesson from CCDA (btw. I highly recommend
> everyone to take that exam - in fact, I would make it prerequisite for
> any other cert): networks are there to support business, not the other
> way round. Unless on understands the business the company is in, one
> cannot properly design h network to support it. Unfortunately, many of
> us who try to understand this logic are met with "expert" who don't.
>
> There are many of us on this list with various levels of experience
> and knowledge. Some are good at putting those into words and others
> are just passive readers. There are also some trolls (like the author
> of the text you are reading now ;-) ). Nothing we see in this mailing
> list from anyone is true proof of our knowledge and experience.
> Granted, instructors have vast experience on CCIE subject, but that's
> no proof of their real-life effectiveness. We must also forget, that
> it doesn't proof anything otherwise. We don't know anything about
> their private contracts and consulting work they may or may not
> perform.
>
> I would we very cautious calling up on anyone from this list and
> telling them that they don't have "it" to pass one exam. Especially so
> if haven't seen the exam in question. Which brings me back to the
> subject of CCDE.
>
> CCDE is supposed to be everything Darby so nicely summed up. Fantastic
> summary. I would agree 100% with the content of that blueprint,
> only... CCDE ain't all that. 41 of who have seen the beta in all it's
> glory came out from it bemused. Well, at least 1 out those 41 did. The
> exam wasn't what I expected. It didn't test my analytical skills at
> the level I expected it to do so, it didn't allow me to elaborate on
> the solutions I wanted to implement, it didn't follow my "advice" and
> my solutions. It didn't test my design skills, it tested my... I don't
> really know what... general understanding of networking concepts in
> some weird and unusual way.
>
> --
> Marko
> CCIE #18427 (SP)
> My network blog: http://cisco.markom.info/
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