From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Dec 09 2008 - 21:53:08 ARST
Darby,
The point here which is not understood, is that what is the difference
between us and a others? What other commands should we configure so it would
be convenient? and convenient to WHO? where is our deep understanding of the
subject matter? Are we not the experts? What did we learn in the process of
being CCIE? slap keywords and commands that are NOT really needed? or should
we be a little more careful and professional in our configs.
I used to and still do bunch of consulting and trust me i see routers that
have 2 miles of configuration and when you start digging deep, you see that
they dont need 1.75 miles of it, but the guy who configured it says "I HAVE
ALWAYS DONE IT THAT WAY" well mate.. you have always been wrong.
Hey may be i am wrong.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep... That's what I kept saying... to myself.
>
> Doesn't work like that.
>
> Consider this if you use the <br> keyword because you didn't take the time
> to be the expert with Frame, and that's the only truth there is to the
> matter. Convenience will not buy you points. Um... Trust me. I promise.
>
> Then...
>
> What happens later? Are other requirements using broadcast or unicast?
> Why? Why not? Are you sure?
>
> How many point did you really lose? 2, 3, 10, 20?
>
> Hey it's your $1400.00 lunch, enjoy it any way you want.
>
> Better not to go in the lab and expect that it is going to be with or
> without the <br> keyword.
>
> Some will call this an asumption on your part.
>
> Proctors may take this as an assumption this type of candidate needs more
> time to clear up these assumptions before winning the digits.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:50 PM, <huan@huanlan.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Narbik,
>>
>> My reasons for adding "broadcast", unless the requirement states
>> otherwise are:
>>
>> - convenient,
>> - error prone,
>> - time-saving.
>>
>> This are particularly important as far as CCIE lab is concerned.
>>
>> When configuring WAN FR PVC, I would NOT have to pay much attention to the
>> requirements of the routing, and multicast, or even some miscenlinous
>> topic
>> such as NTP which use broadcast or multicast.
>>
>> I always configure "bp", as alias for "ping 255.255.255.255 timeout 1
>> repeat
>> 1". When configuring L2 (Switching, FR, or P2P Serial), I only need to
>> issue
>> "bp" and count responses, to see if I have full reachibility, instead of
>> having to type actual IP addresses.
>>
>> This approach worked perfect for me!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Huan
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 12/10/08, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> If your OSPF network is non-broadcast type, then your routing protocol
>> will
>> send hello and update via unicast, and will simply not send updates via
>> broadcast. It will operate the same way as if you configure the map
>> without
>> the keyword broadcast. Having that broadcast keyword does not force the
>> router to generate rudundant broadcast! Nothing different!
>>
>> Then why use it????????????????????
>>
>>
>>
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