From: Muhammad Nasim (muhammad.nasim@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 26 2008 - 19:27:54 ARST
The market which I am seeing he is almost an expert : )
The difference is that he does not have CCIE #
Thanks
2008/11/27 shiran guez <shiranp3@gmail.com>
> With all due respect to you, to know how to configure is not what it mean
> to be a CCIE.
> In real world no one will give you a set of task's configure x,y,z.
>
> your manager or your employer will come to you with a problem or a need
> that he is facing usually it will be very obscure and you will have to
> know how to analyze his need so the outcome will be to his satisfaction
> where usually time and money are key points and to know how to get to his
> need without wasting either his time or money this is where you are being
> test in real life and this is what is expected from a real CCIE.
>
> so I am sorry but don't say that you can configure as my 1.5year old sun
> can configure HSRP but it doesn't mean he is an expert.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Supreme Nkosi <supreme.nkosi@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Being a CCIE doesnt mean that you should know or remember everything but
>> what matters is that you know where to find the answers for what you dont
>> know or cant remember :)
>>
>> I dont think that all of us , regardless of the certs we currently have
>> will
>> still remember all our N+,CCNA,CCNP,CCDA etc stuff :)
>>
>> I remember the last interview I went for, i was asked to explain the
>> difference between VRRP and HSRP in detail but I couldnt remember
>> (ignorance
>> is bliss) but the funny part of it is i can get either of the two
>> configured/working with great ease :)
>>
>> So what did i learn - that for what i cant remember, do not understand or
>> do
>> not know, i should know where to find the answers and believe me you, this
>> happens to most of us at one stage or another in our jobs :)
>>
>> My two cents worth :)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Agree WHY THE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SAVE CCIE IF HE DOES NOT KNOW THE
>> > ANSWERS.
>> >
>> > OK OK I agree to some extent that these are not 100% CCIE QUESTIONS but
>> to
>> > be honest WHY THE HELL CCIE ARE EXPECTING 8 OR 10 K IF THEY CAN NOT
>> ANSWERS
>> > WHICH WORTH LESS THEN 1000$ SALARY per month.
>> >
>> > I am very very sorry to say after hearing the guys that these are not
>> CCIE
>> > questions.
>> >
>> > The market is awful and people are supporting it it DOUBLE AWFUL
>> >
>> > HAPPY GETTING NUMBERS AND CLAIMING 10$K or more as you now know CCIE
>> > ANSWERS
>> > (WHAT A TOUGH LUCK)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2008/11/25 Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > > I think its all the fish they eat in China. Good for the brain mate,
>> > that's
>> > > why Chinese people are so smart and good at Math.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Mohammad Zahid Saeed <
>> > > mzsaeedVING@gmail.com <mzsaeed@gmail.com>>wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > As far as question is concerned, it sounds very strange to me if
>> some
>> > one
>> > > > has CCIE and he doesn't understand the difference between hub and
>> > switch?
>> > > > How you can recommend something if you don't have the answer WHY?
>> And
>> > if
>> > > > some one says HUB, I know I am supporting network in Canada with
>> D-Link
>> > > hubs
>> > > > :):):) And I am not recommending them replacing because I am scared
>> > they
>> > > > will ask me WHY? :)
>> > > >
>> > > > Secondly, I heard and I can be wrong, in Beijing every week 20
>> people
>> > > pass
>> > > > CCIE, and in RTP 4-5, now I can be wrong, but whats special in
>> Beijing?
>> > > (No
>> > > > offence to any one no matter if you are US or from China, we are all
>> > > humans
>> > > > at the first point)
>> > > >
>> > > > And I am surpirised some time to see people, who say "I started in
>> Jan
>> > 07
>> > > > and passed in Sept 07" When I know people who spent 5 years, now
>> either
>> > > they
>> > > > are too "Sharp" or others are too "dumb" :):):) No offence again
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Mohammad Z Saeed
>> > > >
>> > > > --------------------------------------------------
>> > > > From: "Cisco Godfather" <cisco_godfather@hotmail.com>
>> > > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:50 PM
>> > > > To: <ratlamwala.huzefa@gmail.com>; <nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk>
>> > > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > > > Subject: RE: CCIE True Interview Story
>> > > >
>> > > > Hey Mr. Huzefa,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> What makes you think that people in Middle East, India and China
>> are
>> > > >> Booming with CCIEs without any real-life experience??
>> > > >>
>> > > >> You need to stop watching FOX News dood!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> You have to be carefull about what you say here, and respect others
>> > who
>> > > >> might be the reason behinde your success one day!!!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Wonder if all Americans, British, Canadaians and Austrailan born
>> with
>> > a
>> > > >> router or switch in his hand!!!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> silly comment!! infact disrespectfull one!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Cisco_Godfather
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:17:31 +0300> From:
>> > > ratlamwala.huzefa@gmail.com>
>> > > >>> To: nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: CCIE True Interview Story>
>> > CC:
>> > > >>> ccielab@groupstudy.com> > I feel the same pain, people in Middle
>> > East,
>> > > >>> India and China are booming> with CCIEs without any real-life
>> > > experience.> >
>> > > >>> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Nki <nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk>
>> > wrote:>
>> > > >
>> > > >>> > I interviewed this CCIE from Saudi. He just became one this
>> > september
>> > > and>
>> > > >>> > his> > name is Ali. From basic switching and routing questions,
>> he
>> > > did
>> > > >>> very poorly> > in> > his answers.The one that really stumped I and
>> my
>> > > >>> manager was the following> > question.Q. Ali you have been
>> assigned a
>> > > ticket
>> > > >>> to install a Cisco router> > for> > Internet connection. The
>> customer
>> > > site
>> > > >>> have 10 users, with a 24 port hub> > installed.The network is
>> > operating
>> > > well
>> > > >>> with no errors. After you complete> > your WAN router install,
>> what
>> > > >>> recommendation can you make to the customer> > concerning their
>> > HUB.A.
>> > > I
>> > > >>> will ask them to rplace it with !
>> > > >>>
>> > > >> a switchQ. Ali> > what> > is your reason for this
>> recommendation.Ali
>> > > could
>> > > >> not come up with one. Here> > I> > am a dual CCIE sitting with my
>> > boss,
>> > > I
>> > > >> felt my number shrink in> > embarassment.B What is going on here,
>> are
>> > > guys
>> > > >> out there buying their CCIE?> > If> > they are at least read the
>> study
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