From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 26 2008 - 14:15:08 ARST
Adam,
I've been to a lot of interviews. A lot. Probably more than the norm
here. I get a lot of job solicitations. A lot. Again, more than I'd think
is normal.
Now I can tell you I've been on interviews where I've been asked questions
from one end of my resume to the other. I've also been asked things that I
felt were totally out of the scope of things I'd ever done, but somehow the
person on the other seemed to think obscurity was relevant. I've been asked
questions that I felt were not worth my time or ability and I answered them
as such.
No I do not answer every question every time. Nope. Did I get the job
offer? Usually, about 90-95% of the time: Yes (I don't count the one that
ask me CCNA-only stuff or obscure stuff the guy on the other end was asking
to puff up his/her ego - since I kinda blow those off when I come across
them... Sorry if you know who you are.).
Most of the time in an interview, I think it best to answer the question
with as much detail as you can, asking for clarification where needed, and
presenting options where you feel there might be forks in the road.
I also try to get a feel for what the organization might think is important
and then I present the solution in the present tense as well as in the first
person with how I might go about solving the problem, seeking consensus, and
finally finding resolution or where I might go in the event I've exceeded my
own abilities and resources... i.e. Do I know where and when to ask for
help?
That's a big question. Ego is good but it hurts too if we can not temper
it.
I just left a contract where Ego reigns supreme and and an eye for eye left
them blinded... it happens and they probably think they are better for it.
It happens.
One question that often gets left out of technical interviews is how we deal
with our contractors and vendors. This is crucial since we will no doubt
influence spending money, time, and resources in this area. In the
engagement referenced earlier, they paid several hundred thousand dollars to
a Cisco Gold Partner and the "ego" of the "I wanna be a CCNA when I grow up"
always seemed to think that the support from the Gold Partner was "clueless"
and so he always wanted to be escalated even before he saw the issue at
hand.
One might consider this reckless and a waste of a lot of money. But hey...
most Fortune 500's have a ton of it, right?
Back to the interview. Call me crazy but I do not "WANT" every job I've
applied to "AFTER" the interview. Nope, some things are better to walk away
from. Always be prepared to walk away from an offer just like you might
from a Car Salesman. And alaways consider how that offer is going to affect
you in the future.
Does this help a bit?
This is OT, so hit me unicast if if you need more help on this one.
On 11/26/08, Adam Elghafri <ccie.adam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> and did u get the job supreme?
>
> On 11/26/08, Supreme Nkosi <supreme.nkosi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Being a CCIE doesnt mean that you should know or remember everything but
> > what matters is that you know where to find the answers for what you dont
> > know or cant remember :)
> >
> > I dont think that all of us , regardless of the certs we currently have
> > will
> > still remember all our N+,CCNA,CCNP,CCDA etc stuff :)
> >
> > I remember the last interview I went for, i was asked to explain the
> > difference between VRRP and HSRP in detail but I couldnt remember
> > (ignorance
> > is bliss) but the funny part of it is i can get either of the two
> > configured/working with great ease :)
> >
> > So what did i learn - that for what i cant remember, do not understand or
> > do
> > not know, i should know where to find the answers and believe me you,
> this
> > happens to most of us at one stage or another in our jobs :)
> >
> > My two cents worth :)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Muhammad Nasim <
> muhammad.nasim@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Agree WHY THE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SAVE CCIE IF HE DOES NOT KNOW THE
> > > ANSWERS.
> > >
> > > OK OK I agree to some extent that these are not 100% CCIE QUESTIONS but
> > to
> > > be honest WHY THE HELL CCIE ARE EXPECTING 8 OR 10 K IF THEY CAN NOT
> > ANSWERS
> > > WHICH WORTH LESS THEN 1000$ SALARY per month.
> > >
> > > I am very very sorry to say after hearing the guys that these are not
> > CCIE
> > > questions.
> > >
> > > The market is awful and people are supporting it it DOUBLE AWFUL
> > >
> > > HAPPY GETTING NUMBERS AND CLAIMING 10$K or more as you now know CCIE
> > > ANSWERS
> > > (WHAT A TOUGH LUCK)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/11/25 Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > I think its all the fish they eat in China. Good for the brain mate,
> > > that's
> > > > why Chinese people are so smart and good at Math.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Mohammad Zahid Saeed <
> > > > mzsaeedVING@gmail.com <mzsaeed@gmail.com>>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As far as question is concerned, it sounds very strange to me if
> some
> > > one
> > > > > has CCIE and he doesn't understand the difference between hub and
> > > switch?
> > > > > How you can recommend something if you don't have the answer WHY?
> And
> > > if
> > > > > some one says HUB, I know I am supporting network in Canada with
> > D-Link
> > > > hubs
> > > > > :):):) And I am not recommending them replacing because I am scared
> > > they
> > > > > will ask me WHY? :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, I heard and I can be wrong, in Beijing every week 20
> people
> > > > pass
> > > > > CCIE, and in RTP 4-5, now I can be wrong, but whats special in
> > Beijing?
> > > > (No
> > > > > offence to any one no matter if you are US or from China, we are
> all
> > > > humans
> > > > > at the first point)
> > > > >
> > > > > And I am surpirised some time to see people, who say "I started in
> > Jan
> > > 07
> > > > > and passed in Sept 07" When I know people who spent 5 years, now
> > either
> > > > they
> > > > > are too "Sharp" or others are too "dumb" :):):) No offence again
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mohammad Z Saeed
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > From: "Cisco Godfather" <cisco_godfather@hotmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:50 PM
> > > > > To: <ratlamwala.huzefa@gmail.com>; <nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Subject: RE: CCIE True Interview Story
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Mr. Huzefa,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What makes you think that people in Middle East, India and China
> are
> > > > >> Booming with CCIEs without any real-life experience??
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You need to stop watching FOX News dood!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You have to be carefull about what you say here, and respect
> others
> > > who
> > > > >> might be the reason behinde your success one day!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Wonder if all Americans, British, Canadaians and Austrailan born
> > with
> > > a
> > > > >> router or switch in his hand!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> silly comment!! infact disrespectfull one!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cisco_Godfather
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:17:31 +0300> From:
> > > > ratlamwala.huzefa@gmail.com>
> > > > >>> To: nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: CCIE True Interview
> Story>
> > > CC:
> > > > >>> ccielab@groupstudy.com> > I feel the same pain, people in Middle
> > > East,
> > > > >>> India and China are booming> with CCIEs without any real-life
> > > > experience.> >
> > > > >>> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Nki <nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > wrote:>
> > > > >
> > > > >>> > I interviewed this CCIE from Saudi. He just became one this
> > > september
> > > > and>
> > > > >>> > his> > name is Ali. From basic switching and routing questions,
> > he
> > > > did
> > > > >>> very poorly> > in> > his answers.The one that really stumped I
> and
> > my
> > > > >>> manager was the following> > question.Q. Ali you have been
> assigned
> > a
> > > > ticket
> > > > >>> to install a Cisco router> > for> > Internet connection. The
> > customer
> > > > site
> > > > >>> have 10 users, with a 24 port hub> > installed.The network is
> > > operating
> > > > well
> > > > >>> with no errors. After you complete> > your WAN router install,
> what
> > > > >>> recommendation can you make to the customer> > concerning their
> > > HUB.A.
> > > > I
> > > > >>> will ask them to rplace it with !
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> a switchQ. Ali> > what> > is your reason for this
> recommendation.Ali
> > > > could
> > > > >> not come up with one. Here> > I> > am a dual CCIE sitting with my
> > > boss,
> > > > I
> > > > >> felt my number shrink in> > embarassment.B What is going on here,
> > are
> > > > guys
> > > > >> out there buying their CCIE?> > If> > they are at least read the
> > study
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