Re: Layer 7 monitoring system

From: Wes Stevens (wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Nov 25 2008 - 23:01:46 ARST


Netscout bought Network General earlier this year.

The Netscout probes are good for everything but sniffing where they lack. They have promised to integrate the sniffer cababilities but have not as of yet. We put probes at key places and feed netflow data to Netscout collectors at all CE routers that don't have probes. The combination works well.

----- Original Message ----
From: josh lauer <jslauer@hotmail.com>
To: Ina&Laurean <ina.laurean@gmail.com>; kang lee <kanghlee@gmail.com>
Cc: Cisco certification <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:40:45 PM
Subject: Re: Layer 7 monitoring system

NetScout is great, however it's pricey...especially if you are looking at monitoring 10-GB links. Network General Sniffer has a product similar as well, equally expensive but well worth the money if you have it and have a need for detailed traffic monitoring.

I have Nam's in all my 6500's and I'm satisfied, it provides "most" of what I need. CW2K is good too as well as SolarWinds but our netscout implementation is the mainstay. We also use NETMRI for our overall management of our infrastructure, but for detailed inline traffic inspection netscout or the sniffer product is where it's at.

sorry for rambling :)

Josh
CCIE 16024

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From: "Ina&Laurean" <ina.laurean@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:35 PM
To: "kang lee" <kanghlee@gmail.com>
Cc: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: Layer 7 monitoring system

> Hi
> You could take a look at former Network General products now NetScout, you
> may need a combination of Infinistream for packet capture, Application
> Inteligence for performace analysys and Visualizer for reporting.
> I used these products in the past and I liked them.
>
>
> Regards,
> Laurean
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:16 PM, kang lee <kanghlee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi GS,I am wondering how do you monitor layer 7 traffic, especially what
>> are
>> you using to monitor.
>> I am using Cisco works, Solarwinds and NAM. This is fine up to layer 4
>> monitoring but now I need to see and monitor even transaction level. Packet
>> sniffer is not efficient enough.
>>
>> Following are the requirements I have
>>
>> Requirement:
>> 1. Web application performance monitor end to end.
>> 2. Need to identify the problem tier or node on multi tier data flow
>> 3. Be able to track each transaction and performance : don't need to
>> decrypt
>> the whole content
>> 4. track each tier processing or transaction time.
>>
>>
>> Because it is mainly application end to end performance monitoring, this is
>> little bit out of scope for network engineer. However, I hope some of you
>> have experience or insight on this.
>>
>> However, I will appreciate any of your input.
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
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