From: Fahad Khan (fahad.khan@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Nov 25 2008 - 07:26:02 ARST
Great Zeal! Now keeping this thing in your mind that learning is always the
part of earning, go on for joining any system integrator even for a lesser
salary and start facing real world problems.
Remember, data sheets and hardware guides are very much important.
best regards,
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Adam Elghafri <ccie.adam@gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks Fahed.... but i am suffering from lack of jobs openning nowadays..
>
> now for vendors and multinationlan companies.. forget about it.. most of
> them, if not all, r having hire freeze..
>
> i agree with every word you said.. i need now a hardcore exposure to
> heterogeneous network with multi-vendor equipments and diverse traffic types
> in order to get the feel of it...
>
> i woudnt mind joinning this kind of job anywhere in the world!..
>
>
> On 11/23/08, Fahad Khan <fahad.khan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> First of all I congratulate you on your success and wish you all the best
>> ahead in your future. MashAllah great Job.
>> But your next goal should be to get rid of the the bottle neck (zero years
>> exp), and must not be the 2nd CCIE :).
>>
>>
>> Remember, Hardware interfacing, troubleshooting, implementation,
>> configuration and design modification while deployment, these are very very
>> important things in real life even more than certifications. There are many
>> things which you may not find in the book and they are beyond any bookish
>> knowledge. Things defined in the books are ideal. But you get the real taste
>> of technology when you deploy, integrate and troubleshoot a technology (any
>> box) with the zero or minimum downtime.
>>
>>
>> I think you should go for the diversified knowledge like integration of
>> juniper, 3Com, foundry etc technologies (Routing, switching, security,
>> wireless etc ) with Cisco, that will definitely let you feel more
>> confident.
>>
>>
>> Try getting a job at vendor or any Service provider's end for feeling the
>> real pain of technologies.
>>
>>
>> Remember, There is not any short cut of experience and exposure.
>>
>>
>> I wish you all the very best in life.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Adam Elghafri <ccie.adam@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi group..
>>> here is my success story as Ive promised u
>>>
>>> Ive graduated as an electrical engineer in summer 2007 yes.. I am a
>>> fresh
>>> graduate with no work experience..
>>> During university, I have completed CCNA and several 400 level courses in
>>> Telecom and networking after graduation, i thought this is not enough,
>>> so I
>>> opted for higher degree in Canada.. but unfortunately my immigration
>>> application has been rejected ... I wasn't satisfied with the bachelor
>>> degree I have, plus me loving networking technologies made me take the
>>> decision of studying for CCIE
>>>
>>> Of course.. I don't have work experience.. and relying only on self-study
>>> is
>>> tough at this stage. .. so I headed to india looking for institutes that
>>> teaches CCNP and CCIE that was exactly on July 2007 .. I studied there
>>> and
>>> in UAE as well as I kept coming and going back and forth the institutes
>>> there are crap .. if I do compare what level of knowledge I got from them
>>> and what I have right now .. its almost 1:15 relied on all books of CCNP
>>> and routing TCP/IP the 2 volumes which are truly THE books of CCIE so
>>> here
>>> is my booklist :
>>>
>>> - Routing TCP/IP vol I, II, for Jeff Doyle
>>> - CCVP QoS study guide for Odem
>>> - Internet Arch, for Sam Halabi
>>> - TCP/IP illustrated, for Stevens
>>> - MPLS VPN arch
>>> - SNRS book
>>> - DocCD
>>> - O'reailly cisco ios cookbook and cisco ios in a nutshell
>>> - CCNP books
>>>
>>> the time where I knew about this group and Internetwork Expert and
>>> Dynamips
>>> is almost on Jan/Feb2008 started with IE vol 1 and in the last 6 months
>>> (May Oct).. I was truly a caveman (see my facebook photo with the long
>>> hair and bread) studying almost 24/7 with few brakes and a month-end
>>> instead of a week-end for the ppl who are studying now.. my average
>>> productive hours per day was almost 7 hours
>>>
>>> During the 6 months I ve mentioned I did the following in order:
>>> -During June, I did IE vol 3 once
>>> -from the first of July, I started with lab 1 of IE vol 2.. the plan was
>>> to
>>> finish a lab per day .. or to finish on Jul 20th. !!! .. the first lab
>>> went
>>> smooth.. second one was a bit messy.. third took 2 days... and couple of
>>> days later made me realize I need much more time than expected.. I
>>> finished
>>> the first round of vol 2 on almost the the end of Aug or 2 months later
>>>
>>> Surprisingly enough.. the major factor that made me consume more time is
>>> "BOREDOM" . Yes boredom it will start sneaking inside you starting
>>> from
>>> lab 7 I still remember lab 18 which I finished in 10 days !!! its not
>>> because of its difficulty.. rather the fact that u don't want to continue
>>> setting on the chair configuring
>>> Ive wrote a post abt this on GS.. went to the cinema.. had fun.. but
>>> without
>>> hope.. it was the most dangerous enemy of me that I couldn't defeat more
>>> dangerous than my classical enemy "memory" as I have below average memory
>>> power . And speaking of difficulties in memorization.. I used to write
>>> notes I wrote and wrote and wrote almost everything I encountered in A4
>>> and
>>> filed all in one folder
>>> This helped me to go back to anything ive ever encountered before and
>>> more
>>> importantly, it helped me to understand more clearly !!... yes coz
>>> suppose u
>>> ve seen some QoS tech like FRTS.. then u will say: "ya ya I got it".. but
>>> in
>>> fact u didn't get the small key point there that won't show up until u
>>> drow
>>> it on the paper so taking notes for me was a big factor of my success..
>>> Then I repeated the labs once again.. this time wasn't faster as I
>>> expected
>>> coz of the my 2 enemies above mentioned.. plus the holy month of Ramadan
>>> (September) where we muslim fast
>>>
>>> I booked a seat on 21 of October I had lots of troubles in adjusting my
>>> biological clock which made me force myself to stay awake the whole 48
>>> hours
>>> before the lab night.. thanks to God I slept good 8 hours before the
>>> lab..
>>> When I went out of the lab, I thought I wont make it as I finished on
>>> time
>>> without a decent revision! jumped to my laptop and my email pressing
>>> refresh bottom almost every 10 seconds and got the "PASS" at 1:30
>>> am! .needless to say I made everyone around me wake up
>>>
>>> Thank you Brain & Brain & Petr from IE thank you Tony for from
>>> cconlinelabs.com .
>>> Hats off to Chris the developer of Dynamips/Dynagen
>>> Thank you GS
>>>
>>> Now I feel a bit hopeless in getting a decent job in dubai coz of two
>>> major
>>> factors:
>>>
>>> - the global financial crisis where most multination companies r having
>>> hiring freeze.
>>> - ZERO years of experience :D
>>>
>>> ive started sending my cv everywhere the whole last month and I didn't
>>> get a
>>> reply from any company till the writing of this email wish me a good
>>> luck!
>>>
>>> Adam
>>> CCIE#22416
>>>
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>> --
>> Fahad Khan
>> http://fahad-internetworker.blogspot.com
>>
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> --
> Adam
>
> CCIE #22416
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