Re: US Customs/Immigration when traveling to US for Lab

From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Nov 21 2008 - 18:50:48 ARST

Joseph,

John Wayne once said "A man should never apologies".

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>wrote:

> Let me apologize to you for our country...
>
> Rather than getting tough and mandating our fat lazy civilians take
> military
> style fitness and law-enforcement training in response to the 9/11 attacks,
> we simply made our airports hell for foreigners and US citizens alike.
>
> Don't feel bad; I watched a beautiful young woman have to throw away a new
> bottle of channel no.5 at the SF airport... I'm sure some waddling-fat
> little TSA penguin took it home... nice perks for $12 an hour, huh?
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Huan
> Pham
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:35 PM
> To: Con Spathas; Pavel Bykov
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: US Customs/Immigration when traveling to US for Lab
>
>
> Heheh, .... a funny REAL story (to me, not sure if others find it funny)
> when
> I crossed a security check in US, a security lady checked my water bottle ,
> and asked me :
>
> - "DRINK IT!".
>
> I was a bit supprised, and so I asked her to clarify.
>
> - "Do you want me to drink it?"
> - "YES, DRINK IT", she replied.
>
> Althought at that moment, I needed to go to toilet rather than being able
> to
> feed in some more water, but there's not much I can do other than following
> her instruction, and good luck to me ... I passed without futher questions.
>
> I was left wondering what she whould ask if I was carrying a pack of large
> size condom. Would not mind that idea!!!
>
> Hahahahah
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Pavel Bykov <slidersv@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Pavel Bykov <slidersv@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: US Customs/Immigration when traveling to US for Lab
> To: "Con Spathas" <ccie19226@googlemail.com>
> Cc: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 3:01 AM
>
> Horror stories you hear are same horror stories that you hear on your local
> TV.
> Yes, shit happens, but it doesn't necessarily have to happen to you, now
> does it?
>
> Scott: I myself have been turned away at customs once. One thing is correct
> paperwork, and the other is "doorman syndrome", or whatever it is
> called,
> when people just want to abuse their power.
>
> Con: With the new online system you don't have to worry anymore -
> that's the
> good thing about it.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Con Spathas
> <ccie19226@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the feedback guys.
> > Visa Waiver Program reckons we're good to go so hopefully all will be
> > sweet.
> >
> > I'll just have to make sure I pack these bricks of icing sugar and
> oregano
> > really well. :-)
> >
> > Cheers....
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Scott Morris <
> > smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> >
> > > With an Australian passport, you shouldn't have added
> difficulties. And
> > > you
> > > should get in with a tourist visa. Don't give more information
> than is
> > > necessary. The chances that a customs person can differentiate
> TAKING a
> > > lab
> > > versus CONDUCTING business is pretty slim.
> > >
> > > The bottom line is that you are here to SPEND money. THAT is the
> > important
> > > differentiator. ;) business visas are necessary if you are here to
> earn
> > > money, or take it away somehow!
> > >
> > > Good luck on your lab!
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
> > > Senior CCIE Instructor
> > >
> > > smorris@internetworkexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Knowledge is power.
> > > Power corrupts.
> > > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Con
> > > Spathas
> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:41 AM
> > > To: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: OT: US Customs/Immigration when traveling to US for Lab
> > >
> > > Gday,
> > >
> > > I've heard/read some horror stories of people being turned away
> at US
> > > Customs/Immigration due to incorrect paperwork etc.
> > >
> > > From what I understand I don't need a visa getting into the US on
> an
> > > Australian passport (which has the new-style data chip in it).
> > > However what do I tell them when I arrive? If I tell them I'm
> going there
> > > for a lab with Cisco - could that be implied that it's
> "work" related and
> > > subsequently require a visa of some kind?
> > >
> > > I suppose I'm trying to get a feel from folks who have traveled
> to the US
> > > to
> > > sit a lab and what they said to customs officials and wrote on their
> > > immigration card.
> > >
> > > To be honest I'm probably making a mountain out of an ant-hill re
> this
> > but
> > > last thing I'd want is to get turned away and miss my chance at
> sitting
> > the
> > > lab.
> > > My wife is tagging along as well - she has the same style passport.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Con...
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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