Re: Starting my journey again after three years

From: Anthony Sequeira (asequeira@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Mon Nov 17 2008 - 17:47:36 ARST


It sure is a doozy.

In my opinion, this is clearly NOT outside the scope - in fact, I
believe it should have been included and marked with a Key Topic flag!

Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
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On Nov 17, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Scott M Vermillion wrote:

> Aint that a doozy?!
>
> Actually, I'm all in favor of exam writers taking the time to probe
> comprehension and knowledge vs. an ability to memorize stuff. You
> can come
> up with a mnemonic for anything (Naughty Wombats, LOL) and pass an
> exam full
> of questions such as "name the RFC that defines xyz" and so forth.
> Having
> said that, to state that the BGP best path selection is outside the
> scope of
> the written Cert Guide strikes me as taking things a tad far. This
> book
> makes extensive use of the "Key Topic" flag. I interpret those to be
> identifying knowledge which is critical to passing the exam. They
> simply
> could have listed the selection process and then not flagged it as a
> key
> point (for the written, of course, if in fact it no longer is).
>
> Oh well, the information is out there and it's probably best to be
> finding
> it in the documentation (or your brain) vs. any book by the time you
> move on
> to lab prep. Just struck me as really odd when I read it...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Sequeira [mailto:asequeira@internetworkexpert.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 11:22 AM
> To: Scott M Vermillion
> Cc: 'Wiz Khan'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Starting my journey again after three years
>
> Oh my!
>
> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> Senior CCIE Instructor
>
> asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Outside US: 775-826-4344
>
> On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Scott M Vermillion wrote:
>
>> Wiz,
>>
>> The blueprint for the written changed quite a bit back in the summer
>> of '07;
>> definitely upgrade your Cisco Press "Certification Guide," which has
>> since
>> been updated to reflect the new v3.x content.
>>
>> But I feel this book is week in some key areas (was shocked the
>> other day to
>> see that the BGP best path selection process was considered by the
>> authors
>> to be "lengthy" and "outside the scope of this book" - gasp!).
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Wiz
>> Khan
>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:19 AM
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Starting my journey again after three years
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I took my first shot at CCIE RS lab exam almost three years ago and
>> did not
>> pass it. Since then I am working on L4-L7 stuff and kind of away from
>> traditional routing and switching world. Now I have decided to go
>> back and
>> study again. My written is obviously expired. So that will be my
>> first step
>> now. I am working in Networking for past 10 years. over the course
>> of this
>> time, I have purchased and studied many cisco press books. Now I
>> need to go
>> back to these books and start preparing for my written exam. Couple
>> of days
>> ago, when I took my cisco press books from my shelf (all were dusty)
>> and
>> started reading, I realize that I still know lots of stuff from
>> them, and it
>> felt like I will be wasting lots of time going thru these books, I
>> really
>> need some condensed form so I can quickly brush up my skills. Is any
>> one
>> aware of any such books?
>>
>> At my first lab attempt [almost three years ago] I bought IPexpert
>> work book
>> (version 7 I believe) and its proctor guide. The material was great,
>> unfortunately I did not even complete first 5 labs before sitting in
>> the
>> lab. I still have those books, I am wondering if those are still
>> relavent or
>> should I buy new work books?
>>
>> My current employer may be willing to pay for ccie bootcamp. I am
>> wondering
>> if there are any good ones (for written and lab) in New York city?
>>
>>
>> many thanks
>> Wiz
>>
>>
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