From: David Prall (dcp@dcptech.com)
Date: Thu Nov 06 2008 - 12:50:53 ARST
I have all of my lab attempts fully documented. They are my possessions and
they have never been given to anyone. But others go in and memorize the lab,
leave, document it just as I do, then sell or train to it. I know others in
my office that are even better at documenting their labs, such that they can
even write down the point value and version of the labs they attempted.
David
-- http://dcp.dcptech.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Nate Cielieska [mailto:ncielieska@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:34 PM > To: Felix Nkansah > Cc: Joseph Brunner; David Prall; Pamela Pinero; Brad Ellis; Scott > Morris; Cisco certification > Subject: Re: CCDE Study Materials > > I was watched constantly and i couldnt leave with any document so that > would be extremely tough, if you shoved something down your pants or up > your shirt they would know. Not to mention how they rotate these > exams.. it must be different out of the US, or like i said > proctors/employees are swiping/copying exams and distributing for top > dollar. > > Nate > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Felix Nkansah <felixnkansah@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > But what is the use if the candidate coming in already had access > to all the lab questions he was coming to yet 'see'? > > Cisco's main focus should be on preventing CCIE braindumps; > stripping candidates naked and secluding them in single-person cells > during their takes would still not help with the proliferation of CCNA > -level CCIEs. > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Nate Cielieska > <ncielieska@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Joe, > > That is funny... I know the CCIE is serious business but > geeze... The > actually had me remove a "coffee stir" that day from my > pockets.. thats when > i knew it was serious business. > > Nate > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Joseph Brunner > <joe@affirmedsystems.com>wrote: > > > > They had us leave watches at the door once... some yahoo > brought in a USB > > watch with answers he somehow tried to load on the > rickety old pc's > > > > Use your imagination... that little earbud Tom Cruise > wears in Mission > > Impossible... next Cisco will need white/pink noise proof > windows > > > > LOL > > > > -Joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > > Nate > > Cielieska > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:57 PM > > To: David Prall > > Cc: Pamela Pinero; Brad Ellis; Scott Morris; Cisco > certification > > Subject: Re: CCDE Study Materials > > > > Other than an in-test source (ie proctor, employee) i'm > not sure how you > > cheat at the Lab exam.. they watch you like a hawk at > RTP. Maybe other > > locations are different. > > > > Regards, > > Nate Cielieska > > CCIE #21955 > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:16 PM, David Prall > <dcp@dcptech.com> wrote: > > > > > No one has passed the Beta Lab as of yet. Would it > really matter if they > > > had. Hopefully they are teaching per the blueprint, and > using some real > > > world examples, and not actual content. > > > > > > David > > > > > > -- > > > http://dcp.dcptech.com <http://dcp.dcptech.com/> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf > > Of > > > > Pamela Pinero > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:17 PM > > > > To: 'Brad Ellis'; 'Scott Morris'; 'Cisco > certification' > > > > Subject: RE: CCDE Study Materials > > > > > > > > Who is teaching your class? Did your instructor pass > the beta lab? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad@ccbootcamp.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:51 PM > > > > To: Scott Morris; pampinero@gmail.com; Cisco > certification > > > > Subject: RE: CCDE Study Materials > > > > > > > > Scott - I suppose you could say that's true for every > Cisco > > > > certification - look at the blueprint! That's were > the exam questions > > > > come from. :) > > > > > > > > For our CCDE boot camp there are specific topics that > we focus on. The > > > > syllabus should be up by the weekend. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Brad Ellis > > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > > > > CCSI# 30482 > > > > CEO / President > > > > CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO) > > > > Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com > > > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243 > > > > Direct: +1-702-968-5100 = Outside the USA > > > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012 > > > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits! > > > > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com > <http://www.ccbootcamp.com/> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf > > Of > > > > Scott Morris > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:41 PM > > > > To: pampinero@gmail.com; Brad Ellis; 'Cisco > certification' > > > > Subject: FW: CCDE Study Materials > > > > > > > > The voices in my head have said that > <http://www.cisco.com/go/ccde> > > > > www.cisco.com/go/ccde should contain the blueprint. > If the class's > > > > blueprint varies, there would be gaps in your > knowledge! > > > > > > > > Since they wanted to be approved, I'm sure they stuck > with the > > > > blueprint. > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, > CISSP, et al. > > > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER > > > > Senior CCIE Instructor > > > > > > > > smorris@internetworkexpert.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowledge is power. > > > > Power corrupts. > > > > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil...... > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > From: "Pamela Pinero" <pampinero@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > Date: November 4, 2008 7:05:49 PM EST > > > > To: "'Brad Ellis'" <brad@ccbootcamp.com>, "'Cisco > certification'" > > > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com> > > > > Subject: RE: CCDE Study Materials > > > > Reply-To: "Pamela Pinero" <pampinero@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > Thank you. The Russ White book will be a good place > for me to start. Do > > > > you > > > > have a syllabus for your written boot camp? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad@ccbootcamp.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:01 PM > > > > To: Pamela Pinero; Cisco certification > > > > Subject: RE: CCDE Study Materials > > > > > > > > Pamela, > > > > > > > > Hi! Those list of books are pretty good. The most > effective book on the > > > > list is the one by Russ White, Optimal Routing > Design; he is one of the > > > > CCDE SME's (subject matter experts). The link to the > Cisco press book: > > > > > http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587051877 > > > > > > > > We do have a CCDE written study guide that is in the > process of being > > > > updated and is about 50% of the way there. > > > > > > > > If you are looking for instructor led training for > CCDE, we submitted > > > > our CCDE written boot camp materials to Cisco a few > months ago, and got > > > > the "stamp of approval" on our content just recently. > Per Cisco, we are > > > > the only Cisco approved CCDE training vendor in the > world. They have > > > > not > > > > reviewed anyone else's content. We are in the process > of updating our > > > > website to reflect the new approved CCDE training > course. The website > > > > should be updated within the next couple days: > > > > http://www.ccbootcamp.com/instructor-led- > training/ccde.html > > > > > > > > Feel free and email me offlist and I will let you > know when the CCDE > > > > written study guide is finished with the update. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Brad Ellis > > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > > > > CCSI# 30482 > > > > CEO / President > > > > CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO) > > > > Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com > > > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243 > > > > International: +1-702-968-5100 > > > > Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call > > > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012 > > > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits! > > > > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com > <http://www.ccbootcamp.com/> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf > > Of > > > > Pamela Pinero > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:14 PM > > > > To: 'Cisco certification' > > > > Subject: CCDE Study Materials > > > > > > > > Team, I am thinking of changing from my CCIE pursuit > to CCDE. I went > > > > through > > > > Cisco's website, found a list of recommended reading: > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccde/booklist.html But I was > > > > really > > > > wanting some more concise information since there are > so many books to > > > > read. > > > > What is everyone using to study for the first exam? > Are you reading all > > > > of > > > > those books? Is there an easier way to study? > > > > > > > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > <http://www.ccie.net/> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > <http://www.ccie.net/> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > <http://www.ccie.net/> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > <http://www.ccie.net/> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > <http://www.ccie.net/> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > <http://www.ccie.net/> > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > <http://www.ccie.net/> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > ______ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.htmlBlogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
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