From: Felix Nkansah (felixnkansah@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 05 2008 - 21:43:57 ARST
But what is the use if the candidate coming in already had access to all the
lab questions he was coming to yet 'see'?
Cisco's main focus should be on preventing CCIE braindumps; stripping
candidates naked and secluding them in single-person cells during their
takes would still not help with the proliferation of CCNA -level CCIEs.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Nate Cielieska <ncielieska@gmail.com>wrote:
> Joe,
>
> That is funny... I know the CCIE is serious business but geeze... The
> actually had me remove a "coffee stir" that day from my pockets.. thats
> when
> i knew it was serious business.
>
> Nate
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com
> >wrote:
>
> > They had us leave watches at the door once... some yahoo brought in a USB
> > watch with answers he somehow tried to load on the rickety old pc's
> >
> > Use your imagination... that little earbud Tom Cruise wears in Mission
> > Impossible... next Cisco will need white/pink noise proof windows
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Nate
> > Cielieska
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:57 PM
> > To: David Prall
> > Cc: Pamela Pinero; Brad Ellis; Scott Morris; Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: CCDE Study Materials
> >
> > Other than an in-test source (ie proctor, employee) i'm not sure how you
> > cheat at the Lab exam.. they watch you like a hawk at RTP. Maybe other
> > locations are different.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Nate Cielieska
> > CCIE #21955
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:16 PM, David Prall <dcp@dcptech.com> wrote:
> >
> > > No one has passed the Beta Lab as of yet. Would it really matter if
> they
> > > had. Hopefully they are teaching per the blueprint, and using some real
> > > world examples, and not actual content.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://dcp.dcptech.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > Pamela Pinero
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:17 PM
> > > > To: 'Brad Ellis'; 'Scott Morris'; 'Cisco certification'
> > > > Subject: RE: CCDE Study Materials
> > > >
> > > > Who is teaching your class? Did your instructor pass the beta lab?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad@ccbootcamp.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:51 PM
> > > > To: Scott Morris; pampinero@gmail.com; Cisco certification
> > > > Subject: RE: CCDE Study Materials
> > > >
> > > > Scott - I suppose you could say that's true for every Cisco
> > > > certification - look at the blueprint! That's were the exam questions
> > > > come from. :)
> > > >
> > > > For our CCDE boot camp there are specific topics that we focus on.
> The
> > > > syllabus should be up by the weekend.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > Brad Ellis
> > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> > > > CCSI# 30482
> > > > CEO / President
> > > > CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO)
> > > > Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com
> > > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> > > > Direct: +1-702-968-5100 = Outside the USA
> > > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> > > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> > > > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > Scott Morris
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:41 PM
> > > > To: pampinero@gmail.com; Brad Ellis; 'Cisco certification'
> > > > Subject: FW: CCDE Study Materials
> > > >
> > > > The voices in my head have said that <http://www.cisco.com/go/ccde>
> > > > www.cisco.com/go/ccde should contain the blueprint. If the class's
> > > > blueprint varies, there would be gaps in your knowledge!
> > > >
> > > > Since they wanted to be approved, I'm sure they stuck with the
> > > > blueprint.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
> > > > Senior CCIE Instructor
> > > >
> > > > smorris@internetworkexpert.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Knowledge is power.
> > > > Power corrupts.
> > > > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: "Pamela Pinero" <pampinero@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > Date: November 4, 2008 7:05:49 PM EST
> > > > To: "'Brad Ellis'" <brad@ccbootcamp.com>, "'Cisco certification'"
> > > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: CCDE Study Materials
> > > > Reply-To: "Pamela Pinero" <pampinero@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > Thank you. The Russ White book will be a good place for me to start.
> Do
> > > > you
> > > > have a syllabus for your written boot camp?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad@ccbootcamp.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:01 PM
> > > > To: Pamela Pinero; Cisco certification
> > > > Subject: RE: CCDE Study Materials
> > > >
> > > > Pamela,
> > > >
> > > > Hi! Those list of books are pretty good. The most effective book on
> the
> > > > list is the one by Russ White, Optimal Routing Design; he is one of
> the
> > > > CCDE SME's (subject matter experts). The link to the Cisco press
> book:
> > > > http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587051877
> > > >
> > > > We do have a CCDE written study guide that is in the process of being
> > > > updated and is about 50% of the way there.
> > > >
> > > > If you are looking for instructor led training for CCDE, we submitted
> > > > our CCDE written boot camp materials to Cisco a few months ago, and
> got
> > > > the "stamp of approval" on our content just recently. Per Cisco, we
> are
> > > > the only Cisco approved CCDE training vendor in the world. They have
> > > > not
> > > > reviewed anyone else's content. We are in the process of updating our
> > > > website to reflect the new approved CCDE training course. The website
> > > > should be updated within the next couple days:
> > > > http://www.ccbootcamp.com/instructor-led-training/ccde.html
> > > >
> > > > Feel free and email me offlist and I will let you know when the CCDE
> > > > written study guide is finished with the update.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > Brad Ellis
> > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> > > > CCSI# 30482
> > > > CEO / President
> > > > CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO)
> > > > Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com
> > > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> > > > International: +1-702-968-5100
> > > > Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> > > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> > > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> > > > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > Pamela Pinero
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:14 PM
> > > > To: 'Cisco certification'
> > > > Subject: CCDE Study Materials
> > > >
> > > > Team, I am thinking of changing from my CCIE pursuit to CCDE. I went
> > > > through
> > > > Cisco's website, found a list of recommended reading:
> > > > http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccde/booklist.html But I was
> > > > really
> > > > wanting some more concise information since there are so many books
> to
> > > > read.
> > > > What is everyone using to study for the first exam? Are you reading
> all
> > > > of
> > > > those books? Is there an easier way to study?
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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