Re: IE Announcement

From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 05 2008 - 16:46:12 ARST

Why won't some one from NMC reply????????????? Bob???? Bruce??????

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Troy F. <ccie17k@gmail.com> wrote:

> Darby,
>
> >"NMC cut all strings with their previous clients."
> >"NetMasterClass dumped all their old customers cold "
> Man, I do not know what you are talking about: THIS IS NOT TRUE AT ALL!
>
> They did change their web site, but I can still login and access their
> products from the login on their main page:
> http://www.netmasterclass.com(right hand side)
>
> In the portal I still have access to all of my VODs and DOiT 2 + a couple
> of
> CHECKiT labs that I plan to schedule within the next month.
>
> That is true that they stopped selling their classic products like DOiT or
> CHECKiT, and replaced it with the pricy Cisco 360 stuff, but it's their
> right as a business, don't you think?
>
> I have been to their class this summer, and, knowing Val and Bruce
> personally, I hate to hear someone badmouth them the way you do. IMHO, you
> owe them an apology.
>
> Troy
>
> On 11/5/08, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Actually... InternetworkExpert did and still does to be honest. And
> > apparently will from now on as well.
> >
> > I've had an account with them for at least 3-4 years longer than with NMC
> > and still ahve access to both the old and the new.
> >
> > Last time I checked for a class at NMC, I was told the courseware had
> > changed drastically. This was from early 2006 to late 2007.
> >
> > However, the major changes were not quite so drastic.
> >
> > Most of the 20 Workbook labs were not complete even as late as prior to
> the
> > most recent accouncement.
> >
> > And the addition mostly added 2 more switches to the existing labs.
> >
> > I guess that was the major change that meant old customers would not even
> > be
> > given another class at discount rates.
> >
> > However, I purchased the Frame Relay VOD even more recent than that...
> and
> > it is gone too.
> >
> > Speaking with others they've lost their access too.
> >
> > I guess this is ok for the materials completed 2+ years ago.
> > Since I think the letter of the contract stated: 6 months access anyway.
> >
> > No biggie, I was no using them too much as witnessed by my login history.
> >
> > But the fact that all materials old and newer purchases are arbitrarily
> > removed is not good.
> >
> >
> > How do they expect to compete with the "Gray Vendors"?
> >
> >
> > The saddest fact is that Cisco and NMC seemed to expect that all the
> other
> > vendors would simply sell their materials and just pack up shop and "go
> > with
> > the flow".
> >
> > But sole proprietors are "sole proprietors" for many reasons...
> >
> > Mostly because of the independence factors and self-satisfaction gained
> by
> > that status.
> >
> >
> > Now it seems that many if not all gray vendors who offer good if not
> better
> > in some respects of materials are not "toeing the line"...
> >
> > I think the 360 needs to be 360-ized...
> >
> > If Cisco is going to offer a program that is truly a complete program...
> > then they needed a vendor to model who had a complete program.
> >
> > As it stands, NMC is more of a finishing school. It lacked in my opinion
> a
> > CCNP-CCIE Gap that is crucial for a CCIE Candidate's success.
> >
> > As a finishing school NMC is outstanding. But in order to deal with the
> > labs that are a bit complex in terms of intricacy and interwoven, one
> needs
> > to have a complete control of the underlying layers.
> >
> > Typically this was assumed and expected that a student would get this
> > outside of the program.
> >
> > That's what I'm saying.
> >
> > Now the VODs if completed may cover this gap? However, there are other
> > programs that cost a lot less that do a great job of covering the
> > gap. Some
> > Video and some not.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Andrew Dempsey <apdccie@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > They are servicing a different sector of the market now. Take a quick
> > look
> > > at their current price structure which effectively excludes many
> > candidates
> > > from even buying a single product especially those candidates in
> > developing
> > > countries. To exclude these candidates NMC likely believes that there
> > will
> > > be another sector of the market which they will now service. Whether
> NMC
> > > chose to do this because they could not compete in the current market
> or
> > > for
> > > some other business reason is not something I care to understand as I
> > can't
> > > afford their products now. :)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Duncan Maccubbin <
> > > duncan.maccubbin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "NMC Customers who enjoyed access for years have been KICKED to the
> > > > CURB!!!"
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry, who else gave years of access to their stuff?
> > > >
> > > > Darby,
> > > >
> > > > I sincerely hope this comment isn't aimed at NMC:
> > > >
> > > > "If you can't beat the competition, cut your cords and start over
> with
> > a
> > > > new model."
> > > >
> > > > Although it seems your tone is. You took their classes and came on
> > this
> > > > forum and said how great they are. You took your first NMC class in
> > > January
> > > > '06 and you have had almost three years of access to their stuff. Now
> > you
> > > > are complaining about it?
> > > >
> > > > I don't claim to know the nuts and bolts behind the 360 program or
> why
> > > NMC
> > > > chose to go with it. I do know they are smart guys with a successful
> > > > business and I think they thought this out. I, for one, am in no
> > position
> > > to
> > > > judge them.
> > > >
> > > > They certainly helped me greatly in attaining my CCIE.
> > > >
> > > > Duncan
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
> > > > >Sent: Nov 5, 2008 8:48 AM
> > > > >To: John Wayne <john.wayne.ccie@gmail.com>
> > > > >Cc: Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy@link.net>, Mohammed Naviwala <
> > > > monavy@gmail.com>, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie@gmail.com>, Narbik
> > > > > Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com>, "L. Jankok" <ljankok@gmail.com>,
> > > Brian
> > > > McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>,
> > > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: IE Announcement
> > > > >
> > > > >I second that emotion.
> > > > >
> > > > >NMC cut all strings with their previous clients.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mentor Tech did it before...
> > > > >
> > > > >NMC is the Legacy of Mentor Technologies...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Cisco 360 is now the grandchild of both!
> > > > >
> > > > >Guess which clients will get their cherry popped next!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >It's a business strategy! If you can't beat the competition, cut
> your
> > > > cords
> > > > >and start over with a new model.
> > > > >
> > > > >Love this stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:52 AM, John Wayne <
> john.wayne.ccie@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> NMC Customers who enjoyed access for years have been KICKED to the
> > > > CURB!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 360 Sucks!!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's a new day...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Vote with your training dollars...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 6 month programs that expire.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Lifetime Programs that support your career...
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Make the choice...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Time to let vendors know what we think of the 360 Program...
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hint: It ain't very good right now... and does not promise to get
> > > > better.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Mohamed El Henawy <
> > m.henawy@link.net>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > the same idea came to me......customers will be the victim at
> the
> > > end
> > > > >> even
> > > > >> > though IE is really my hero now . the ideas there are just
> > > > great....god
> > > > >> be
> > > > >> > with you guys
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mohammed Naviwala" <
> > > > monavy@gmail.com
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > To: "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > Cc: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>; "L. Jankok" <
> > > > >> > ljankok@gmail.com>; "Brian McGahan" <
> > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>;
> > > > <
> > > > >> > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > >> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 1:44 PM
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: IE Announcement
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > are IE and cisco at war with ech other?? thats what i thaught
> > after
> > > i
> > > > saw
> > > > >> >> te
> > > > >> >> recrdin....
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Atlanta CCIE <
> > > atlantaccie@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> http://www.ccietalk.com/2008/10/30/internetwork-expert-ccie-20for
> > > > >> folks
> > > > >> >>> who
> > > > >> >>> missed it
> > > > >> >>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Narbik Kocharians <
> > > > narbikk@gmail.com
> > > > >> >>> >wrote:
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> > unbelievable.....Unbelievable
> > > > >> >>> >
> > > > >> >>> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:59 PM, L. Jankok <
> > ljankok@gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >>> >
> > > > >> >>> > > Great, I am viewing :)
> > > > >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >>> > > 2008/10/30 Brian McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> >
> > > > >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > The recording can be viewed here:
> > > > >> >>> > > > http://ieclass.internetworkexpert.com/p95047727/
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > More info will be posted on the details of the updates
> > soon.
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Thanks!
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> > > > >> >>> > > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > >> >>> > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com>
> <
> > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > <
> > > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > > >> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > > >> >>> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/><
> > > > >> >>> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > > >> >>> > <
> > > > >> >>> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > > >> >>> > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705
> > > > >> >>> > > > Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > L. Jankok wrote:
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > I am viewing Diego now, together with my 3 year old son
> :D
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > 2008/10/30 Anthony Sequeira <
> > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > > <
> > > > >> >>> > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > So sorry you experienced a problem with your live
> > viewing.
> > > > We >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >>> > will
> > > > >> >>> be
> > > > >> >>> > > sure
> > > > >> >>> > > > to make the recording available to all very soon.
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Warmest regards,
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> > > > >> >>> > > > Senior CCIE Instructor
> > > > >> >>> > > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > >> >>> > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com>
> <
> > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > <
> > > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > > >> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > > >> >>> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/><
> > > > >> >>> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > > >> >>> > <
> > > > >> >>> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/> <
> > > > >> >>> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > > >> >>> > <
> > > > >> >>> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > > >> >>> > > > Outside US: 775-826-4344
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> >>> > > > From: "L. Jankok" <ljankok@gmail.com> <
> ljankok@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >>> > > > Sent: Thu, October 30, 2008 12:55
> > > > >> >>> > > > Subject:Re: IE Announcement
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Well... I was in watching the presentation, than my
> screen
> > > > went >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >>> > blank
> > > > >> >>> > so
> > > > >> >>> > > I
> > > > >> >>> > > > hitted F5 and got a page telling me that the meeting
> > > > >> >>> > > > is already in progress.. pretty dissapointing :(
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > 2008/10/30 Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie@gmail.com> <
> > > > >> >>> atlantaccie@gmail.com
> > > > >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > I was not able to login either. Says recording
> will
> > be
> > > > >> posted
> > > > >> >>> lol
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Mike Leske <
> > > > >> >>> mike.leske@googlemail.com
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > I already got a mail stating that two many registered
> for
> > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >>> event.
> > > > >> >>> > > > I have to wait un
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > 2008/10/30 Andrew Dempsey <apdccie@gmail.com> <
> > > > apdccie@gmail.com
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Pretty sure the news will hit this list within
> > > minutes
> > > > >> >>> anyway.
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Ali Mousawi > > > <
> > > > >> >>> mousawi.ali@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >>> <
> > > > >> >>> > > mousawi.ali@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > it seems no place for non IE customers :(
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Rick Mur <
> > > murserver@me.com>
> > > > <
> > > > >> >>> > > murserver@me.com>
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Don't know if I break some NDA for it but:
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >>
> http://ieclass.internetworkexpert.com/announcement/?launcher=false
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > log-in with your standard classroom account
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > On 30 okt 2008, at 18:46, Ali Mousawi wrote:
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Hello,
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > Is the announcment in 15 mins? I signed up but how will
> i
> > > join
> > > > i
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > didnt
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > get
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > >
> > > > >> >>> > > > any link?
> > > > >> >>> > > >
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> > > > >> >>> > Narbik Kocharians
> > > > >> >>> > CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > > > >> >>> > www.MicronicsTraining
> > > > >> >>> > www.Net-Workbooks.com <http://www.net-workbooks.com/> <
> http://www.net-workbooks.com/> <
> > > http://www.net-workbooks.com/> <
> > > > >> http://www.net-workbooks.com/> <
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> > > > >> >> Best Regards
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Mohammed Abdul Razzaq
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> If you are not small enough to loose, you are not big enough to
> > > win..
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Narbik Kocharians
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www.MicronicsTraining
www.Net-Workbooks.com
Sr. Technical Instructor

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