Re: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE R&S

From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Oct 25 2008 - 15:59:39 ARST

To answer your questions:
To answer your first question:
YES, some vendors will remain independent or what Cisco calls grey market,
and continue to offer their own program. I know few that will continue to
stay where they are.

Your second question:
Those who like to jump into the 360 program, AS OF NOW, THEY CAN NOT, This
is ONLY offered or *initially* offered through the companies that i
mentioned (The only reason i say initially, because only god knows what they
will do later), and if others llike to teach the program, they have to go
through one of the companies that i mentioned and may be *contract* one of
thier qualified instructors. BUT Cisco made it cleared that it will be
offered through the companies that i mentioned, and by the way, they won't
negotiate pricing with *any other company*, this is NOT the flee market.

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Bill Eyer <beyer@optonline.net> wrote:

> Narbik
>
> What I am trying to fully understand is this:
>
> 1. Will some vendors remain independent (and hopefully more reasonably
> priced)
> 2. Those who also jump into the Cisco 360 program, will they just be
> teaching NetMaster's class or will they be able to develop their own.
>
> Bill
>
>
> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>
>> There is only one authorized CCIE program, before Cisco made this
>> announcement, all you had to do was submit your work book and as long as
>> you
>> adhered to certain stuff your course/class became authorized. But since
>> Cisco has made the announcement about their program, THERE IS NO OTHER
>> CISCO
>> AUTHORIZED CLASS, whether its derivative or NOT, if you want to see who is
>> correct, JUST CALL CISCO AND FIND OUT. Cisco at this time is only working
>> with certain vendors, and NONE of the vendors in this list can offer these
>> classes, they can only do so by going through the companies that i
>> mentioned. Once again, CALL CISCO AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELVES. Cisco will
>> NOT work with any company to lower the price, if that was the case, Global
>> Knowledge, Skyline-ATS, Fast Lane and CTT would had done it already.
>> Now what happens in the future? God knows, but what i am stating is the
>> fact
>> as of NOW.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> It's geared towards corporate customers at the moment. We are working
>>> with Learning@Cisco to offer some lower cost options as well.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Brad Ellis
>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>> CCSI# 30482
>>> CEO / President
>>> CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO)
>>> Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com
>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>> Direct: +1-702-968-5100 = Outside the USA
>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bill Eyer [mailto:beyer@optonline.net]
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:14 AM
>>> To: Brad Ellis
>>> Cc: Troy F.; Robert Dobre; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE R&S
>>>
>>> In an open request to all vendors, PLEASE consider continuing to offer
>>> your own material. $4500 just to get started is really steep.
>>>
>>> Is Cisco trying to make this exclusive just by making it too expensive
>>> for most people to afford?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Brad Ellis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> NMC is the only one advertising the program that I can find. We are
>>>> working with Cisco now on the possibilities of offering the program.
>>>>
>>>> I did hear that Brian applied to become a CLP, so it's possible he'll
>>>>
>>>>
>>> be
>>>
>>>
>>>> offering it too.
>>>>
>>>> Fyi - CCBOOTCAMP has been a Cisco authorized training partner for over
>>>> seven years now. Our current CCIE training programs are approved by
>>>> Cisco as derivative works.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Brad Ellis
>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>> CCSI# 30482
>>>> CEO / President
>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO)
>>>> Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com
>>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>>> Direct: +1-702-968-5100 = Outside the USA
>>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Of
>>>
>>>
>>>> Troy F.
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:47 PM
>>>> To: Robert Dobre
>>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE R&S
>>>>
>>>> Looks Like NMC has released their offerings:
>>>> http://blog.netmasterclass.net/?p=34
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone registered for that program yet? Since that is a Cisco
>>>> program
>>>> can you buy it from Cisco or should we do it though a vendor?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/23/08, Robert Dobre <robert.dobre@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Group,
>>>>>
>>>>> As Cisco recently announced there is a learning program called Cisco
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 360
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> that will be available starting November 1st.
>>>>> As a result of that, I saw that Internetworkexpert started the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> registration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> for the Assestment Lab (plus a major anouncement for early next week)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Netmasterclass closed the online store anouncing the offering of the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> new
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cisco 360 learning program.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am wondering how will affect this new program the offer of the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> existing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> CCIE learning providers.
>>>>> Is Internetwork expert going to finalize the Lab workbook 1 v5 ?
>>>>> Will we be able to book existing Mock labs to the CCIE providers?
>>>>> Will we have a transition to the unified learning structure?
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you see it ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find below the Official mesage:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Available November 1st: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE Routing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Switching*
>>>>>
>>>>> Designed to help high potential network professionals transform into
>>>>> certified network experts, the Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Routing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> and Switching is the first Cisco authorized learning program for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> expert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> training. The Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE Routing and
>>>>> Switching prepares networking professionals for the challenges of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> managing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> sophisticated networks as well as the configuration and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> troubleshooting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> scenarios found on CCIE examinations.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Cisco 360 Learning Program is a six-month blended learning
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> experience
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> incorporating advanced skills assessments, targeted learning modules,
>>>>> instructor-led training, mentoring and hands-on practice and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> assessement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> labs to accelerate expert-level competency. The Cisco 360 Learning
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Program
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> will be made available through select authorized Cisco Learning
>>>>> Partners<
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvcG~wpVDv8SU6X3Gu0e~yL~Jvkq~x~~&2=13
>>>
>>>
>>>> 48
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information, visit Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Routing and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Switching.<
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvcG~wpVDv8SU6X3Gu0e~yL~Jvkq~x~~&2=14
>>>
>>>
>>>> 07
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Narbik Kocharians
CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
www.MicronicsTraining
www.Net-Workbooks.com
Sr. Technical Instructor

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