From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Oct 14 2008 - 23:58:53 ART
Not at all.
I think the posts that I got kicked from the Island never made it to the
island and we are past that.
Now this initial post has to do with a query that was posted about Cisco's
upcoming CCIE Program changes. Some of which contain the Cisco 360
Program.
I just posted a speculation as to what it sounds like.
So no I don't think this is even remotely close be comparison.
Paul correct me if I'm mistaken. BTW - We need to talk about some things
and I think you may like it. I'm tied up pretty tight this week but would
like to speak to you next week if you have time.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com>wrote:
> Darby,
>
> Isn't it this type of post that got you, as we are saying now - kicked of
> the Island /joke ;)
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> NetworkWorld has announced that Cisco will soon unveil its CCIE training
>> program <http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/33978> for the
>> Routing
>>
>> and Switching track. It looks like it will be called the "Cisco 360
>> Learning Program for CCIE - Routing and Switching".
>>
>> *Cisco Tuesday rolled out Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE - Routing
>> and
>> Switching, a six-month program that incorporates e-learning and hands-on
>> practice labs to accelerate expert-level competency. The program is
>> designed
>> to run head-on against third-party boot camps, which Cisco says are not up
>> to par(you'll be able to read more about Cisco's thoughts on this in
>> Network
>> World's IT Careers & Training newsletter on Wednesday). The program will
>> be
>> made available through select authorized Cisco Learning Partners and
>> consist
>> of pre-assessments, six online classes covering topics such as IPv6, QoS,
>> Frame Relay, Border Gateway Protocol and switching, instructor-led
>> workshops, practice labs and mentoring. The courses start at $5,000 but
>> can
>> reach to double-digits for the mentorship features.*
>>
>> **
>>
>> Basically here's the skinny:
>>
>> There was a competiton or bid of sorts between the major vendors.
>>
>> It seems NMC won the bid. Maybe others but we'll see in a few days. As
>> of
>> now just NMC that I am aware of.
>>
>> The training program will be based on the NMC-1 Advanced CCIE 1-Week Class
>> currently offered by NMC.
>>
>> The pre-assessments are similar to NMC's per-technology quick exams -
>> currently less than 15Q each as I recall - correct me it's been a while
>> since I tried one.
>>
>> The pre-assessment will be similar to the CCIE Accessor or the Day-1 Lab
>> given by NMC on the first day of class.
>>
>> The online classes will likely mimick and/or mirror the NMC Video on
>> Demand,
>> which consequently in some cases are quite "exactly" similar to the NMC
>> Tech
>> Library which is quite "exactly" similar to the NMC-1 one-week CCIE
>> Bootcamp. This material is nearly word-for-word verbatim to the class as
>> I
>> recall.
>>
>> The practice labs will likely be very much the CheckIT Labs with the
>> CheckIT
>> grading system.
>>
>> Anyone from back in the day who used Mentor Technologies VLabs will recall
>> the format and layout.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you can still by the Tech Library for $149.00 it is probably the best
>> deal going since you get the material that this system will be based on.
>>
>> With all of this said:
>>
>> NMC's approach to tackling a lab is perhaps the most scientific and well
>> thought-out and planned in the industry. I think few will contest this.
>> Caslow coined the term "The Golden Moment".
>>
>> The CheckIT Lab Grading System is probably among the best grading and
>> feedback system in the business.
>>
>> The knowledge level of the NMC Team is enormous and easily one of the best
>> "Brainshares" in the business and every vendor without exception respects
>> NMC above all their other competition.
>>
>> The scientific method that they employee is freely available for viewing
>> and
>> really tells the story of how to approach the lab in a very clear and
>> concise manner.
>>
>>
>>
>> What else can I tell you? Wait and see if I'm right or wrong?
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I'm not sure that at $5000.00 to $20,000.00 for mentorships it
>> will
>> be able to beat InternetworkExpert End-to-End CCIE Learning Program,
>> IPExperts Blended Learning Solution for the CCIE, or Narbik's $2000.00
>> "Till
>> You Pass" limited time offer.
>>
>> And there are others.
>>
>> Also while the team at NMC is quite superior in terms of sheer knowledge
>> and
>> presentation, I would be curious to see if this knowledge can be scaled to
>> the level that such an announcement might presume.
>>
>>
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