RE: generic QoS question

From: Scott Morris (smorris@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Tue Oct 14 2008 - 13:20:51 ART


Not uptight, just curious about how that simple statement would answer a
question.
 
Going down that path (apparantly not as readily visible as I thought it was)
a few of us could just as easily post with "come to class" or "review my
workbook" to answer MANY of the technical questions to the list here, but
that doesn't really serve the common good, does it?
 
Short of that though, I'm one of the most relaxed people around. Life's too
short for anything else! (And I hate doctors. Well, let me rephrase as I
recall we have a couple on here... I hate being a patient. (smirk))
 
Just trying to understand the value add, that's all!
 
Scott

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From: Narbik Kocharians [mailto:narbikk@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:36 AM
To: smorris@internetworkexpert.com
Cc: Darby Weaver; Roger RPF; asequeira@internetworkexpert.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: generic QoS question

I am sorry I thought it was Roger Oliver, because he wanted to retake the
QOS portion of the boot camp.

 

But Scott, man you are very uptight, relax man just take a deep breath and
relax, this can effect your digestive system or other systems lower down.
What is wrong with everyone????

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Scott Morris
<smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:

Narbik, Will that help the group as a whole? Or shall we all recommend
books/classes to answer all questions?

Roger, a task taken out of context like that may not be a fair assessment in
order to gain an answer. Perhaps there are other things listed around it
which would give you a better idea of how best to solve the task.

As has been noted, there's nothing wrong with asking the proctor lots of
questions to be sure you have the right understanding. Just make sure to
ask questions in a way that demonstrates you KNOW the technologies and are
looking for clarification. Proctors are there to help, but if you are
fishing for answers, they'll shut you down. :)

HTH,

Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
Senior CCIE Instructor

smorris@internetworkexpert.com

Knowledge is power.
Power corrupts.
Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......

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Narbik Kocharians
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:08 AM
To: Darby Weaver
Cc: Roger RPF; asequeira@internetworkexpert.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com

Subject: Re: generic QoS question

Roger i will see you in the class on Friday for the QOS section.

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>wrote:

> You'd want to be a bit better prepared with your thought process and
> be prepared to defend your line of reasoning if you want to get the
> most for the time it takes to ask a question and get a valid reply
> aside from "go re-read the question".
>
> :)
>
> Asking carefully worded questions is a skill unto itself and should
> show a certain level of mastery of the topic. Which you probably already
have.
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> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Roger RPF <rpf@bluemail.ch> wrote:
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> > Thanks for all the replies. So I see, I would have to talk to the
> > proctor
> > :o)
> >
> > rergards
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Anthony Sequeira [mailto:asequeira@internetworkexpert.com]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2008 00:22
> > An: Roger RPF; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Betreff: Re: generic QoS question
> >
> > If the task is truly that vague - this might be a perfect Ask the
> > Proctor moment.
> >
> > Do not forget to look for a clue in the sub-head. For example, you
> > might get lucky and this will be in the 7. QoS 7.1 Policing section!
> > Sometimes the sub-heads can help you pick a technology, other times
> > they can actually throw you off a bit or provide no help whatsoever.
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rpf@bluemail.ch
> > Sent: Mon, October 13, 2008 15:35
> > Subject:generic QoS question
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> >
> > Hi Group,
> >
> > I have a generic QoS question regarding policing/shaping. If the
> > question tells you: "Limit the traffic from network X to network Y (or
similar).
> > What
> > do you do? Policing or Shaping?
> >
> > In a real life scenario I would do shaping in outside direction and
> > policing in inside but....in the LAB?
> >
> > Limiting sounds to me like being very strict, thus policing....
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> > What do you think?
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> > regards
> >
> > Roger
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